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I seen today on youtube that Ruger have brought back the Red label over and under shotgun. Anyone have an opinion on them ? I believe they were a good basis, in 20g, for double rifle conversions. http://www.ruger.com/products/redLabel/index.html
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Only back in 12 gauge? But still made in America Mike
USAF RET 1971-95
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Yes Mike, made in America, Which is surprising and good to see. Sadly some great gunmakers such as webley and scott are made in turkey now,and i believe some famous names have their guns made in turkey now on the quiet.
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Some traditionalists have always hated the Red Label for various reasons but I'm glad to see it back. Hope the internal changes they made will make it hold up better in prolonged shooting so the trap guys can use it without so much fixing (and griping).
And I wish they would have reintroduced the 28 first. IMO it's the best of the lot.
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What was the most common breakdown with the Red Labels, Mike? I've never owned one but am curious, because one of my closest hunting buddies uses one for 90% of his shooting.
SRH
May God bless America and those who defend her.
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Overall good new but why Ruger continues to offer their shotguns with such short length of pulls is beyond me. They list 141/2" LOP with that looks like a 1" pad, making it difficult for those (selfishly, like me) to add length without having almost 2" of ugly black spacer and pad on the end of the stock.
I actually find RRL's serviceable guns but have sold everyone I've owned due to fit issues....my theory for why some people complain about excessive recoil....poor fit.
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I owned one of the first, back when they had a blue receiver, and you could get any gauge you wanted, as long as it was a 20. I bought mine used. Neither barrel would put the shot charge anywhere near where you were looking. In 20 gauge, it was as least as heavy as my Dad's Silver Snipe 12, a gun that shoots exactly where you are looking. Nothing ever broke on mine, but, I didn't use it much at all after I figured out I couldn't hit anything with it. I got rid of it a few seasons after I got it. The 28s really do handle well, from the half dozen or so I've seen in shops over the years, but, I've never fired one. It seems like gun shops value them far out of proportion to what the market thinks they are worth.
Best, Ted
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I have a RRL in 12 ga from back in the late 90's. For whatever reason, I am very accurate and confident in that gun. Big downside, however is weight, pushing all but 8 lbs.
Interest stock drop dimensions, 1.5 & 2.5 at comb and heel. Bit more than many, by modern standards.
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know a couple of long time 20 ga red label skeet shooters...they both love their guns...
have sold a few over the years and have never had a complaint, except that the newer guns with choke tubes are heavier and not as well balanced as the older guns without choke tubes. sounds like ruger may have beefed up the barrels in order to have enough metal to machine for choke tubes.
and of course, stacking the barrels one on top of the other is rather strange, don't you know...should be side by side, eh what?
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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a 20g would be a lovely gun , IF ruger build it on a scaled down receiver, a peeve of mine is 20g's built on 12g receivers, massively heavy barrels and a gun that ends up weighing more than the 12g.
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