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#352925 01/13/14 12:53 AM
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Can anybody recommend a good one for cleaning and/or working on a rifle?

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Versa vise is what I have used for over thirty years. I'm sure there are others out there that will do the job as well.

https://www.google.com/#q=versa+vise


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Just a big swivel bench vise has been my choice for the last 45+yrs. A set or two of wooden safety jaws is a must of course. One set flat,,one V notched is about all you need.
When they wear out,,and they do if you do enough work, make another set
Extra padding when handling delicate finished items.
If you reload shotshells or know someone that does, save the canvas shot bags,,they make nice padding.

Smooth surface on the steel vise jaws themselves,,you don't want the type w/the teeth in them .
The big plain swivel bench vise on a solid mounting gets my vote.
Nothing fancy.

One shop I worked in had Versa Vises set up at all the benches. They were OK for light weight jobs and cleaning chores, but I didn't care for them for regular gunsmithing work. Too much vibration when working .

I guess it depends on what you have in mind to do.
JMO and experience...

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Grizzly has a version of the old Versa-Vise at a pretty good price, as well as bench vises and other special purpose vises.I think it is convienent to have more than one vise.I have two bench vises and a versavise set up as well as a small swivel base toolmaker style vise mounted on a 2x4, which I clamp in one of the other vises.This doesn't include my homemade barrel vise. You can't work w/o a good vise.
Mike

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Mike, do you have a website address for Grizzly? Googling grizzly I get grizzly gunworks, but they seem to just deal in custom muzzlebrakes and the like

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I use an old Emmert pattern makers vise, with 18" jaws, the front one of which can be swiveled to accommodate tapered objects such as fore arms. The whole vise also pivots vertically through 90ş, making work positioning a snap. For 'rigorous' applications I use a regular old heavy duty bench vise, maker unknown (and I'm too lazy to go look at it!).

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Krakow Kid,
They are Grizzly Industrial. Try grizzly.com,tel.1-800-523-4777. I think they will still send a catalog free in US,I don't know about overseas postage. The owner is a shooter and has a gunsmithing section and a seperate division that also has bullets,cases,etc.
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Grizzly has great prices but cheap quality too.

Grizzly products are inexpensive and in my opinion you get a
second rate product from them. I had to rework or throw out everything I purchased from them.

Only occasionally am I so foolish ... like the drills from Tractor Supply ... which wouldn't cut steel in my machining centers ... it was an emergency brought on by poor planning on my part and a customer emergency.

I have champagne taste and a beer budget and I admit it.

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With 5 work benches I use an Emmert pattermakers vise, Wilton pattern makers vise,Parker bench vise and Ohio Tool and Columbian woodworking vises on my cabinet makers benches.I have a couple of small jeweler type vises attached to a wood block that I put in a big vise for smaller work.And a Zyliss for attaching anywhere that I might need it.

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Wilton~Wilton~Wilton~Wilton on the benches. Along with, 4 drillpress, 2 mill, mini, swivel, pana etc. etc, etc.
The last two 4" Wilton Cadet,used, eBay $130-$160, good buys at that.
You'd think this a whorehouse-casino-opium den-moshe pit with all the vises I've got around here.
… and one of those halfass plastic gun vises I never use. And a perfectly good Columbian USA I'd sell cheap.

Jerry Fisher has two big Parkers with swivel jaw, one for more than 40 years.

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