|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Forums10
Topics38,445
Posts544,840
Members14,406
| |
Most Online1,258
Mar 29th, 2024
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,023 Likes: 24
Sidelock
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,023 Likes: 24 |
I'm thinking about restocking one of these and considering the addition of a rib on the barrel as a way of mounting a better set of sights and also giving a little more heft to the barrel balance. Is there a source for a rib that could be adapted to this use?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195 |
Simmons will install an original looking solid rib with the original Winchester matting pattern. This would be an interesting conversion.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,398 Likes: 16
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 2,398 Likes: 16 |
I've thought about this quite a bit Bill. The barrel is awfully small for a solid rib and it would have to be considerably scaled down from shotgun size.
Likewise the stock is very small and proportions would be tricky. The Owen Remington gives an idea of the challenge, the stock almost looks too big for the action. And, what to do with the tiny for end??
I would spend considerable time on paper before I made any decisions.
I've got a 61 and they are even more fun to shoot than a 39A. Both are stupid accurate at iron sight ranges.
All, IMO...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 |
I've thought about this quite a bit Bill. The barrel is awfully small for a solid rib and it would have to be considerably scaled down from shotgun size.
Likewise the stock is very small and proportions would be tricky. The Owen Remington gives an idea of the challenge, the stock almost looks too big for the action. And, what to do with the tiny for end??
I would spend considerable time on paper before I made any decisions.
I've got a 61 and they are even more fun to shoot than a 39A. Both are stupid accurate at iron sight ranges.
All, IMO... I agree, Steven. I own 3 Winchester M61 .22- one is a later .22Mag- all are original and with std open irons- a solid rib looks fine on a Model 12 pumpgun, but on a M61 just to add a base for a scope. If it were my M61, and it ain't- I'd leave it alone and buy a used Ruger M77 .22LR- I have one with a Leupold 6X scope in the Ruger rings, with a tuned trigger- and the tree rats run and hide for a week hand running when ever I bring that into the woods come a late October afternoon-
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,881
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,881 |
I don't have a 61 around here but if I remember correctly the barrel is a lot smaller diameter than the receiver and there is a step-down. Have you considered a quarter rib? That might look good with a man-sized stock.
I went through my files and do not have any pictures of custom 61's. I do have one of a Shelhamer Remington 12, it belongs to a member here so maybe he can post it.
MP Sadly Deceased as of 2/17/2014
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,850 Likes: 150
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 1,850 Likes: 150 |
I think Winchester put a rib on a couple smoothbore 61's during their production. Maybe it was just that they matted the top of the bbl. Confused myself again....
Should be in that book on the Winchester slide action 22's that features the 61.
A 1/4 rib would look nice I think.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 8,158 Likes: 114 |
I think Winchester put a rib on a couple smoothbore 61's during their production. Maybe it was just that they matted the top of the bbl. Confused myself again....
Should be in that book on the Winchester slide action 22's that features the 61.
A 1/4 rib would look nice I think. I believe that book was written by Ned Schwing. I didn't know the M61 was offered in a smooth (Rutledge?) bore. I can also see some slight resemblance between the M61 and the M42 in .410 bore. Now a solid rib on a M42- like a pinkie ring and an Armani suit on a "Goombah"--
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,023 Likes: 24
Sidelock
|
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 2,023 Likes: 24 |
The barrel is small for a rib unless I can find a low, narrow one to use. Does anyone here have contact information for the shop that makes ribs on the old Winchester equipment? The issue of stock proportions will take careful planning. I have in mind something along the lines of a British rook rifle, slender overall with a narrow waist. This all came about when I ended up with some very nice, but slightly undersize, English stock blanks.
Bill Ferguson
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195 |
If you will measure the barrel diameter of your 61, I will measure a Model 42 barrel for you. The standard Simmons solid rib looks great on a Model 42. The other vendor who does Winchester matting is the Gun Works of Central New York, a pretty good shop, I have heard. Both have websites. Simmons actually installed their 1/4" ventilated rib on some few smoothbore Model 61s. They are actually in early Simmons catalogs.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Feb 2002
Posts: 14,111 Likes: 195 |
OK, Bill, the Model 42 barrel is .600 through the body and .560 at the very muzzle. The 1/4" rib looks fine on that gun, sell for big bucks. Simmons is the only place I know that actually installs the solid rib. Bill Murphy in MD.
|
|
|
|
|
