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'W. Richards" was one of the names J.P. Clabrough used for his inexpensive guns. Understood but since my puppy had a Belgian mark - that would eliminate Clabrough since he seems to have moved back to England when he really got rolling? Thanks for the information Steve.
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If my memory serves me, the Belgian "W Richards" were made by Henri Pieper. I have found at least one source relating them to F Dumoulin & Co, but I haven't been able to validate it. They were Folsom imports.. A little "W Richards" name use info. It's mostly citing Greener's explanations. http://firearmshistory.blogspot.com/2012/06/spurious-guns-1.htmlHere's an example of a "W Richards" with Birmingham proofs. It's clearly a little different quality than the Belgian guns. I've also read that some were made in Belgium, yet sent over and proofed in England. Kind'a like when all copy machines were called a "Xerox" after the best.. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=410278521
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Looks like hanging on the wall might be the best thing for that one, Ken. Quite a bit of daylight between the barrels and the standing breech.
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Looks like hanging on the wall might be the best thing for that one, Ken. Quite a bit of daylight between the barrels and the standing breech. Larry, I totally agree. It possibly could be "Spruced Up" to make it a nice, vintage decor item, it's not of high enough quality to put any real money into. It's a good candidate to make a lamp out of, where you see the gun slightly broken, and a rod run up through a barrel with the socket and shade mounted above the muzzle. The rod extends down to the base, and the butt stock heel is attached to the base as well. It's easier to just hang it on the wall as-is... Ken
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'NM' could be Max Neumann, the gun maker.
The faint 'AD' may be 'ADH', Arthur-Delvaux-Heuse de Fraipont, who would be the barrel maker.
The Banc D'Epreuves de Liege 'ELG in an oval' was crowned after 1893.
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'NM' could be Max Neumann, the gun maker.
The faint 'AD' may be 'ADH', Arthur-Delvaux-Heuse de Fraipont, who would be the barrel maker.
The Banc D'Epreuves de Liege 'ELG in an oval' was crowned after 1893. Wow - thanks!
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Strongly doubt that, Steve.
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Odds on it is a farmer grade gun - intended for farm tool use. I've never seen a Belgian with the "W. Richards" name of higher quality. No offense intended, VPN, but that is my experience. Brit W. Richards guns are another story all together.
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With the addition of Max Neumann, that brings the possible number of Belgian manufacturers to three. I'd like to know if the British guns were imported pre McKinley Tariff, with Folsom switching over to less expensive Belgian guns afterward.
It appears Folsom was cost controlling due to the low price point of the gun, and probably always went with the lowest bidder..
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