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Glenn:

Andy Hill, owner of Hawk Precision Bullets makes just what you want. Soft Copper Jacket Bullets with soft lead cores which are perfect for your rough bore. Read the numerous testimonials on the link supplied. They've been making bullets since 1987 at the same location for almost every application.

I've used them for 20 years or so with great satisfaction in the old 1870-1900 built guns of all calibers for hunting and target shooting. Great bullets of high quality.

Andy makes the 38-40 - .401 bullet in 180 grain and 200 grain. Andy Hill & Hawk Precision Bullets are a class act.


http://hawkbullets.com/maintest.htm

http://hawkbullets.com/Pricelist.htm


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Dennis:

Thanks for looking into this for me. Much obliged. It seems that Mr. Hughes has what I am looking for.

Brent:

Thanks very much. I would be interested in trying the RCBS boolit. I actually prefer lead bullets but didn't want to invest the better part of a hundred dollar bill on a mold only to find the bore too rough for a lead boolit.

Now all I hafta do is find some 2400...

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Doug:

Thanks for the link to Hawk. Looks like they are the answer to a number of questions.

Much obliged!

Glenn



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Sorry for the miscommunication Glenn. Even though you said you wanted bullets, I thought you wanted ammo...
You're not the only one I've had trouble communicating with of late.

Anyone want Win. factory 38-40 ammo, 180 JFP?

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Originally Posted By: Glenn Fewless
Doug:

Thanks for the link to Hawk. Looks like they are the answer to a number of questions.

Much obliged!

Glenn



You're welcome Glenn.........

BTW IMR 4227 will give you the same performance with the 180 grain jacketed 38-40 as the 2400......per my late 1950's and 1960's loading manuals 20.0 grains of IMR 4227 will give you 1428 FPS and 18.0 grains of 2400 will give you 1420 FPS. Both are recommended loads and not max loadings for the 38-40 180 grain bullet. IMR 4227 is readily available at most suppliers. I use IMR 4227 in several loadings such as the 32-20 with great results.

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Glenn,

You'll be well armed, sir. Below deer shot through heart with pictured .38 WCF 1873 model, complete penetration, deer dumped about 20 yards from where shot.

I love the .38-40.

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Steve:

Sorry for the misunderstanding. Thanks for trying.

Doug:

It just so happens that I have some 4227. I checked in Waters' "Pet Loads" and his recommendations are pretty much what you suggest. Brent is going to bring some cast boolits for me to try, and if the bore does indeed prove to rough I will try the Hawk bullets. I would prefer to shoot the cast boolits if possible.

Dan:

You make it look easy. <g> Thanks for the encouragement, as I do have some reservations about the .38-40 for deer. I guess it will be ok if I limit my shots to under 300 yards...

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Originally Posted By: Glenn Fewless
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Doug:

It just so happens that I have some 4227. I checked in Waters' "Pet Loads" and his recommendations are pretty much what you suggest. Brent is going to bring some cast boolits for me to try, and if the bore does indeed prove to rough I will try the Hawk bullets. I would prefer to shoot the cast boolits if possible.


Best to all,

Glenn



Hi Glenn:

I cast for just about all of my rifles and have found that "pure lino-type" works extremely well with gas checks as the hard lead does not exit with fins or lead the bore as do the softer lead alloys. The downside with any cast bullet used in hunting is the expansion factor, unless using pure lead as in muzzle loading mini-balls etc. Cast hard hollow points fix the expansion problem and work well for me.

I've shot quite a few Deer, Elk, coyotes etc. with my cast bullets in 45-70, 38-55, 32-40, 32-20, .30 U.S., .348, .32 SPL, 30/30 etc. and hollow point cast gas check bullets are a plus for sure. With pure lino-type gas checks you can drive the cast bullet at near jacket speeds with zero leading, which makes one super hard hitting hollow point cast bullet. The critters seem to go down quite well.

Good Luck with whatever alloy/cast or jacketed bullet you end up with, as usual shot placement is more important than all the hype anyway.....

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Glenn,

Yes, I forgot to brag about my marksmanship. That deer was taken standing at a whopping....wait for it....25 yards! It was touch and go for a minute....Ha!

Dan

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