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"Outsider Art"
Boy you sure make some imaginative attributions… Niedner it's not.
You asked?
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Steve: I was hoping for unbiased opinions. As I seem to recall your identification acumen is such, that you and Petrov thought a 1903 with White forearm tip and gripcap, that he had bought for a pittance without a bolt, was the VERY same rifle pictured in his Book 1 on page 143 [in the rifle rack, single view] with Harvey W. Rodgers. Your theory [yours and his] was, there weren't many 1903 with these distinctive accoutrements, alas it had to be that rifle! I'm sure you will get a chance to buy it when his estate auction takes place. Alas I've seen 25 OR MORE SIMILAR RIFLES [1903'S W/WHITE FIXTURES] FOR SALE SINCE THEN. However this misses the point, that in your RUSH to gleeful delight, in discrediting my rifle you failed to carefully read the question. I said it was "reminiscent" of some Niedner rifle stocks i.e. Ballards stocks I have seen from the Walnut Hill Range days in Mass. I asked for opinions as to whom MAY HAVE DONE THE WORK, THEREFORE IT CAN BE ASSUMED FROM THAT [BY A REASONABLE MAN], I ALREADY KNEW Mr. Niedner was not the stock's maker! It is obvious, we are not friends but over the years, I feel I have gotten a feel for your personality and you remind me of the great Gore Vidal quote: "Whenever a friend succeeds, a little something in me dies." You know As always I wish you continued success as the "Single Shot Dealer of Livingston MT." Jerry
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Please post some pictures of the inletting when you get the rifle. That may help us to identify the stockmaker. I think I've seen something like it before, maybe when I was looking through old issues of the Gun Report.
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Pretty neat piece of folk art stock making and I really like the forearm treatment. I would just replace the recoil pad with something more age appropriate and shoot her.I'd like to see what else the maker did in the way of woodworking.I'll bet any furniture he made probably sells for some good money if it shows the same innovation as this gun stock.
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I'm sorry but IMOP that is one fugly stock, folk art or not. I didn't know people were experimenting with LSD that far back in the day.
The plus side is that the barreled action should make a great basis for a very nice custom Hornet if you wish to put the time & money into it. I always thought the better efforts on M1 & M2 Springfield Hornet conversions were very cool.
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Steve: I was hoping for unbiased opinions. As I seem to recall your identification acumen is such, that you and Petrov thought a 1903 with White forearm tip and gripcap, that he had bought for a pittance without a bolt, was the VERY same rifle pictured in his Book 1 on page 143 [in the rifle rack, single view] with Harvey W. Rodgers. Your theory [yours and his] was, there weren't many 1903 with these distinctive accoutrements, alas it had to be that rifle! I'm sure you will get a chance to buy it when his estate auction takes place. Alas I've seen 25 OR MORE SIMILAR RIFLES [1903'S W/WHITE FIXTURES] FOR SALE SINCE THEN. However this misses the point, that in your RUSH to gleeful delight, in discrediting my rifle you failed to carefully read the question. I said it was "reminiscent" of some Niedner rifle stocks i.e. Ballards stocks I have seen from the Walnut Hill Range days in Mass. I asked for opinions as to whom MAY HAVE DONE THE WORK, THEREFORE IT CAN BE ASSUMED FROM THAT [BY A REASONABLE MAN], I ALREADY KNEW Mr. Niedner was not the stock's maker! It is obvious, we are not friends but over the years, I feel I have gotten a feel for your personality and you remind me of the great Gore Vidal quote: "Whenever a friend succeeds, a little something in me dies." You know As always I wish you continued success as the "Single Shot Dealer of Livingston MT." Jerry
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Any updates on this? Has the rifle arrived? How does it look?
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My guess is that whoever stocked that Hornet took James Howe's design diagrams shown in his gunsmithing book too much to heart.
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