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Anyone on here have an idea about the time frame a W. Greener with serial number 17xx might have been made. I'm thinking 1840s but that's just a guess.
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Best bet for the information will be to contact Graham Greener at W. W. Greener via email. He will give you a close estimate.
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According to Brown, Greener's have little or no information on guns prior to serial no 22860 from 1880.
Greener first started in Newcastle in 1829 before removing to Birmingham in 1844. He set up a London arm to his business in 1846.
What proof marks does the gun have?
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Hello Tim. No proof marks exist. The gun was converted by Lefever to a breach loader so any marks that were there were covered in that process.
I have an inquiry in to Graham so perhaps that can give a rough estimate.
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I have a William Greener hammer gun. Graham was totally mystified as to its provenance. Wonderful gun; I shoot it regularly.
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I can't find much on the W. Greener guns, not just records but any info. I'm curious about engraving levels on these. Anyone have pics to post or a reference that has info. Do his books have any info on his work. W.W. book The Gun and it's Development has the slightest bit, but I don't have any of the dads books.
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The Greener Story by Graham Greener has hundreds of pages of pictures and information.
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Have W Greener 14 ga #5812 converted by J Tonks-was told it was made @1850
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William Greener was the father of William Wellington Greener. In 1814 at the tender age of eight he was apprenticed to John Gardner on Newcastle. When finished with his apprenticeship he went to London and was fortunate enough to obtain work with John Manton & Son at 6 Dover Street but in 1829, having married his first wife Ann Thorne, he left Manton and returned to his native Newcastle where he set up business at 29 Collingwood Street and remained there until 1844. He died on the 23rd. of August, 1869. (this taken from "British Gunmakers" Vol 11 by Nigel Brown)
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