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From what little I know about Manton John from UK is dead on. Manton was long gone at least the famous one.Someone used there name would be my guess.....
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As has been said so often here, buy the gun, not the name.
If you can get barrel wall thickness readings, the Manton may be OK. It is likely a Birmingham boxlock, as well.
An unaltered 1950s W & S is probably a safe bet, but I would evaluate them both, and pick the one I liked best.
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Yes, Montana...update on the Webley, it's a bit older than first thought, prob a 300 series from around 1920...does that change any of the opinions??
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Any gun that came from Webley was solid and had a good pedigree. The so called "Manton" was built to deceive the unwary--it's obviously spurious. Prewar Webley's had incredible quality.
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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is it a screw grip scott?i think those are better fit and finished then the later 700. either one is a great gun if in safe condition.the manton named gun might be a scott also.
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Sidelock
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Thinking of purchasing a either a W&S 12 gauge or a Manton 1910s BLE manufactured 12ga. Guns are if similar measurements, tight and on face and fit.
The W&S was manufactured in the 1950's. The gun is mechanically sound and unaltered. Overall condition is very good and the price is reasonable. Its a plain Jane gun but I'm looking for a field gun and occasional clays gun and don't mind that.
The Manton was manufactured in the 1910s, has some engraving ( well done) on the receiver, re blacked bbls and hardware. Stock has some dings and handling marks but no cracks, mechanically sound gun. It's $300 more than the Webley.
As the guns are quite similar in weight, measurements and fitt decision comes down to which will be a more rugged, long lived gun for me.
Any ideas on these two makers and guns? Not carrying about prestige or what anyone else thinks I would buy the W&S. The only real "weakness" is non-replaceable hinge pin, but one isn't likely to shoot one enough to wear it out.
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While the hinge pin may not be replaceable on the W&S, TIG welding solves that problem by building up the worn areas.
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gsp, is skeet-1 in both 30" barrels what you want? Easy to take choke out but hard to put choke in. Looks like a great gun for the price...Geo
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Appreciate all the informed opinions....I hunt over pointing dogs and the Sk1/Sk1 is fine for me, I'm an open choke kind of guy. I believe I will jump on the Webley, he knocked a little bit off the top as well.
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