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Lloyd3 #410065 07/11/15 09:57 PM
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That would explain a lot.

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Lloyd,
March, of 1933 on mine.

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THAT one I would have bought off you in a second Lloyd!

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Lloyd3 #410070 07/11/15 10:44 PM
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Hell Tim,

I would of bought it too (if I'd of seen it first). Dang it, you right-handed guys seem to get to have all of the fun.

Yours is the 5th.

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Lloyd,
I just installed a lefty safety in mine. I am guessing it is a factory safety, as it is a virtual mirror image of the factory righty, including the little circles machined in the face-it wouldn't have made sense for an aftermarket product to be identicle to the factory unit, and have that extra time and effort put into it.
But, I freely admit I don't know for sure. It appears to work well. I owned the gun most of 40 seasons before I found it.



I know a lefty safety for an Ithaca 37 doesn't work. I suppose one could be modified to work, but, I haven't done it. I simply switched safeties with a guy who bought a 17 only to discover his was a lefty safety.

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My first repeater, the gun that has trained bunches of gun safety students, and a few of their mother's, been lent out to lots of people when I was a guide, and the only gun I ever brought home twin limits of 5 ruffed grouse and 5 woodcock in a single day, with 10 rounds of ammunition. I've worn out two recoil pads on this old guy, and have never had a problem with it. A few seasons past I glass bedded the head of the stock, hoping to stabilize it for another half century or so.

Not for sale.

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Ted

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Ted:

It's likely an early William's safety. No matter, they work pretty good. Darn hard to find one for a M17, good for you.

We'll have to compare notes when I drag that ugly M30 of mine up there this Fall.

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Lloyd,
For what it is worth, I have William's safetys installed in a model 12 Winchester, and an early Ruger model .44 magnum carbine. Neither is a duplicate in appearence to either gun's factory safety. The lefty model 17 is an EXACT, and I mean exact, duplicate, mirror image of the righty part.
Might have to hunt the old 17 this year. I say that every year about a few guns, but, what I showed up with last year gets out more often than not.

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That's because a double gun is the ideal tool to hunt ruffed grouse with Ted. As much I have enjoyed learning about these guns and their history, I've never lost track of that fact. What amazes me is how good these guns can be in the right hands. I grew up with that and have never forgotten it, and....there simply are occasions where having a 3rd shot (or more) is a pretty convenient thing. It's sure nice to have options!

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