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When there was Vintage Cup that was the defacto standard and most of our Carolinas Chapter did at some point make the trip.
It became what we did each fall.

The new Dover Furnace event will no doubt be a nice event but it is a general shotgun event. We are looking to Backwoods and the Fall Side by Side as a event for the vintage shooters.
It happens to be close for us and we would welcome others to come visit us down south and help grow the event.

If you don't want to make the drive- so be it- but others might. Many of us miss the days of Sandonona and Pintail but they are history. Time to support vintage events wherever they are.

Al

Have been to all of the Fall Southern's at Hemingways. Always top notch shooting and hospitality. Looking forward to going again.

Darrell, we look forward to seeing you again also. It is a great event.

I applaud the efforts of the various southern Vintagers chapters to get this show better attended.
I have only attended once, when problems with renewing my US visa caused me to be unable to attend the VC, and I agree that it is a lovely venue: we had great weather and wonderful hospitality.
However, those attending as shooters must realise the significant contribution that the vendors make to the financial viability of the event. The cost of a double booth costs $1000 for the space alone and that subsidises a lot of shooting for Joe Public.
Shooters attending the shoot in good numbers is very important for the viability of the show but so is making it a worthwhile event for vendors in terms of sales.
Having a lovely time chatting with interested parties is great but without sales, the vendors will wither away and the show will slide into oblivion.
Sadly this show is very expensive and difficult for me to attend and I am unlikely to exhibit there any time soon but I wish you all a wonderful time, just remember to take some spare cash!
I will be attending the Dover Furnace event and look forward to seeing any of you who have the time and energy to make it up there.

I remember the year you came, Toby, and enjoyed talking with you and seeing your finely restored guns. I understand the costs involved for you to travel across the big pond to a show like this, and I did not know the cost was that high for a booth at Rick's. But, I find myself wondering a bit at your statement about that $1000 subsidizing Joe Public's shooting. I think the event registration fees of, basically, one dollar per bird pretty well covers the costs of shooting. I understand that there are other costs the host club has, such as the fine meals Rick always provides, etc. But, there are no NSCA fees to be paid, either. I would add that the fee you vendors pay is what covers the costs of renting the large tents provided for you to display your wares. Shooters would not need the tents were it not for vendors being there.

Is the vendor fee not the same at Deep River for the Spring Southern, or the other big events like this?

SRH

Stan makes a good point, Toby. The fees for the targets cover most of the shooting costs. And I believe we have to pay for our eats also. Those big tents are where most of the vendors' costs come from; they are very expensive. Plus, the range owner's profit from doing the event, which in Rick H's case, I'm sure is held to a very reasonable amount.

I doubt any of the Joe Sixpack crowd show up and shoot this event at the expense of the vendor.
JR

I am sure that both Stan and John and right, the clay charge will no doubt cover the cost of shooting....if shooters turn up!
The vendors and shooters are mutually supportive financially: the former in terms of sales and the latter in terms of security for the organisers.
The vendors have to pay months in advance and it is this money which gives the organisers the financial security to lay on the organisation to accommodate a, hopefully, large number of shooters.
If the weather forecast is terrible for a day, or worse still, the whole weekend, many shooters will give it a miss but the trappers, food, equipment must still be paid for.
I have seen this situation at Maryland, Rhode Island and Sanford and although rain can drive shooters into the tents, it is noticeable how quiet a forecasted wet day can be.
If you haven't had to commit by virtue of a long drive, why get your pride and joy wet if you are not looking to make purchases: 'There is always next weekend to shoot.'
I am not looking to devalue the contribution to the event that shooters make: without them it would pointless for everyone. But it serves no one to forget the importance of the vendors to the financial viability of an event on this scale.

Good points for sure, Toby. Well stated. Judy and I are planning on making this one, nothing interfering.
JR

Hello All,

Information and a registration form have been put up on the Back Woods Quail Club website. The link for the registration form is at the bottom of the page.

http://www.backwoodsquailclub.com/sidebyside/

Hello To My Friends In The Carolina Vintagers and The Georgia Vintagers, We, The Vintagers from VA and NC and GA, could join together and sponsor an event of some type during The Fall Southern SXS Shoot. Each of these Vintager's Shooting Clubs could put up $500.00 each to sponsor some type of an event at Backwoods or near Backwoods to benefit our side-by-side shooting community at large. Getting the money from these three Vintager Gun Clubs should be the easy part of putting on a benefit event. The hard part will be getting someone who lives near Backwoods to come forward and take command of supervising whatever benefit event is decided on. If The Vintagers want to prosper in the future we need to demonstrate to our fellow shooters what we can do for the shooting community. Good Shooting To You All, Jent