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1903 Springfield

The results speak for the interest. N***o had it up until the actual bidding and then hit his max around ~750-800. Hopefully someone here got it, because it raised a lot of questions in my mind(not hard to do). I have a hunch based on SWAG not knowledge and am really curious.
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What happened to the front receiver ring??
What are all those beating marks??

You think that it is a Neider or Wundhammer??

http://www.finegunmaking.com/page25/page25.html

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Given the bidding, my guess is that the two bidders
had a pretty good idea who did it. With the premium, it was
a lot to bid for unknown sporter. Neither bidder was onsite
so they were just bidding on the photos and whatever else
might have been communicated via phone prior to the auction.

The action is too late to be a Wundhammer and the tang doesn't
look reshaped either. My guess is a Mielcarek, based on some
similarities that I see from this prior thread.

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Mike,
From the pictures, I get the impression that the rifle was originally stocked with the issue sight. If I am seeing correctly, it looks like there are gaps where the sight fit in the stock. I could be dead wrong. However, if I am correct, perhaps some ham fisted individual banged up the receiver ring removing it with the Lyman being installed at a later date. I just can't tell for sure from the pictures. Neither of those makers were my SWAG.

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Joe's post from a couple of months ago was the only thing I could find similar after a day of searching this site and going through Michael's books and others. Swag was what I have to term it, since I didn't have much else to go on. I had hoped the receiver and other minor issues might have kept bidders away. LOL, good thing I didn't play the ponies on the same hunch. The odd inlay on the left made me pause but I could find nothing else to tie it to. Hope we find out.

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Yeah, unfortunately in this game, we don't always have too many
examples to go with. Here is a link to Michael's Mielcarek
which, if I understand things correctly, is unmarked.
I gather that Michael attributed it to Mielcarek because it is
virtually identical to the drawing that Joe posted from Michael's collection

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Originally Posted By: PhysDoc


The action is too late to be a Wundhammer and the tang doesn't
look reshaped either. My guess is a Mielcarek, based on some
similarities that I see from this prior thread.

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Wundhammer, I agree but I can't get past the shape of the grip, comb, and cheek piece to agree on Mielcarek.......unless you see something I don't.

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Originally Posted By: texraid
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The action is too late to be a Wundhammer and the tang doesn't
look reshaped either. My guess is a Mielcarek, based on some
similarities that I see from this prior thread.

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Wundhammer, I agree but I can't get past the shape of the grip, comb, and cheek piece to agree on Mielcarek.......unless you see something I don't.



Hi Art,

Every time, I have a theory, I try to find faults with it. You've hit on
every major fault, especially the cheekpiece. Also, Michael's Micarek also had a barrel band, which the one on proxibid lacks.

As for why I think it could be a Mielcarek, I am basing that on the overall
similarities in overall stock shape, both also possess a dip in the stock
on the left side of the receiver ring like found on Winchester Model 70 stocks.
Both have early very long Lyman 48, both have hook swivels, both have some sort
of plug to cover a recoil lug. Though on Michael's rifle, the recoil lug is
located almost directly under the bolt release. On the rifle on proxibid has an
inlay a bit further back which I presume covers a recoil lug.

Please bear in mind, that I am only offering my opinion, which I hold at best
loosely. Feel very free to disagree with me.

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My thoughts on the plug that is just in front of the rear action screw is that it's either a wooden dowel installed there to repair an internal crack or check , or more likely, since it doesn't go through to the right side, a wood screw installed for the same repair, and the head covered with a wooden plug.
The recoil lug on Springfields is under the front receiver ring, as in the picture of Michael's Mielcarek


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