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Could be an Irish water spaniel. Similar in appearance to an American, although a lot bigger, lots more leg to them. A big AWS is not much over 40 pounds, little ones as small as 25. A big Irish will go 60+.

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Dave,
Is there a story that goes behind why your Grampa was in his "church clothes" shooting pheasant?

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They were all farmers. My great-great-grandfather's field gun was a nicely engraved ca. 1873 12 bore P. Webley underlever double. It is resting upstairs. My grandfather's was a more mundane 20 ga. SxS purchased during the Depression, possibly a Western Field; no idea where it is now.

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Dave, thanks for sharing the great pictures.


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Jagermeister does not even own a double shotgun. If we can believe him, he only owns one shotgun, an Ithaca model 37 trench gun.

Jagermeister has been very busy in Misfires trying to convince us that he is pro-gun and a real gun guy... but only a fool who forgets his past statements would believe him


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Good subject. I am lucky enough to have two Parker 10 ga hammers as well as an Ithica Crass ( sic) 12 ga that were passed to me. They all belonged to my great grandfather as well as my grandfather. They both were hard working solid American farmers who knew the value of a good gun. They plowed , sometimes by horse, corn and wheat fields. They owned 100 plus acres which they sweated blood and tears to buy. They treated these guns as tools for getting game which they harvested for their family. They also maintained these guns and taught my father how to take care of guns. I am 65 years old and I consider myself most fortunate. I did not know my great grandfather but I have one of his guns, so I guess I do know him.

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Originally Posted By: Parker10guage
Good subject. I am lucky enough to have two Parker 10 ga hammers as well as an Ithica Crass ( sic) 12 ga that were passed to me. They all belonged to my great grandfather as well as my grandfather. They both were hard working solid American farmers who knew the value of a good gun. They plowed , sometimes by horse, corn and wheat fields. They owned 100 plus acres which they sweated blood and tears to buy. They treated these guns as tools for getting game which they harvested for their family. They also maintained these guns and taught my father how to take care of guns. I am 65 years old and I consider myself most fortunate. I did not know my great grandfather but I have one of his guns, so I guess I do know him.
Ithaca, not Ithica I believe. All fine guns, and from an era when men were strong enough to handle a 10 gauge- thanks to hard work and home cooked meals w/o preservatives--


"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Both my grandfather and uncle, both farmers, shot Sxs's. The first gun my dad bought me was a SxS and I still have it along with a number of ones I bought.

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I grew up in an Eastern Shore village of subsistence fishermen who only owned doubles and never saw a pump until after the Second World War. Most owned just another belgian shotgun. The exceptions were a cousin and uncle, both inshore fishermen, who owned a Tobin and Parker DH respectively. The guns are still going, the Parker damascus-barreled.

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King, one of the guys you admire, ex Chief Justice Earl Warren, would not have liked any of those guns. In 1990, he said that we did not have an individual right to own guns. Remember when you said this to refute the Heller decision of 2008?

Originally Posted By: King Brown
The Court departed from the original understanding of the Second. The NRA and other groups rejected the original interpretation. Even as late as 1991, the jurist Burger appointed by Nixon said "the Second Amendment has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word 'fraud,' on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime." In 2008, in the District of Columbia v. Heller, what Burger said was fraud was accepted by the court. Interesting stuff.


Are you and Jagermeister trying to re-invent yourselves? Your anti-gun Genie is out of the bottle, and now you are trying to put it back? Why?


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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