doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Opinions on engraver of this Lefever circa 1893?

From what I have heard, engravers usually used a type of scroll in their engravings, and it is this format of scrolls that sets each engraver apart from the others.
I have seen some of Glahns dogs that did not look like he engraved them but his signature was there.

I actually prefer the "not Loy?" setters.

They look more realistic to me, and seem to be executed in a somewhat more refined manner.

Yep, I'm jumping for Loy.
It will be interesting to see the detail when you're able to post up some better pictures. The ones you posted are very good but when I enlarge them they lose most of the detail.

Best Regards, Dean

I would have guessed Loy, too. I have no expertise on who was who, but, he engraved a lot of setters, and seemed to push the envelope with his art.

Best,
Ted

Thanks to all for posting the pictures. These are great examples of engraving and enjoying an artist rendition of pointers and setters.

Mark

I have more photos. If it doesn't make a thread too long or cumbersome, I'll keep going.

I have yet to see any complaints about the posting of beautiful gun engraving. By all means keep going.

My guess on the engraver of Nudge's Lefever would be A.E. Spangler, but admittedly, I don't know enough about the distinct or subtle styles of engravers to bet the farm on my guess. I have not seen the particular Optimus that JDW posted a picture of earlier, and thank him for sharing that.

JDW, I see the Glahn signature, but I cannot see a J. Is it marked with the first name ? There were other Glahns. I have an A2 Smith marked Sc. Glahn for Scribed by Glahn or something similar. No first name or initial.

Another thought, many guns in England had multiple engravers, so it's possible American guns could have too. That may be a reason you are wondering about the dogs being J. Glahn's work.

Daryl, Jacob Glahn went to Hunter Arms in Fulton from Syracuse in 1893 with his 3 sons. In the obituary for Jacob who died in 1902 said he took control of the engraving department with his sons Theodore and Augustus. I never saw any mention of any work his sons did there. I know one engraved for Colt and another one engraved I believe a pistol for then President Teddy Roosevelt.

In comparing this signed Glahn engraving, the dog in the background does not look like his style (maybe a bad day, no erasing here)


This unmarked grade Syracuse L.C. Smith is Glahn.



This is the left lock showing Glahn's name to the left of the sear axle. (hold Ctrl and then hit + to enlarge, just don't forget to hit Ctrl - to reduce back to normal)




I have seen a few guns with Glahn SC on them and the one by Spangler SC. The SC stands for sculpted.

JDW, here's a Glahn signed A2. It would be difficult for me to say the signed Glahn gun with deeper relief and gold was done by the same person that did this gun. But , I guess if you were good, you could do several styles. This gun is Ser. No. 1965, but as I recall the records for the gun are partially missing, so dating it is inconclusive. It does have the 1901 ejector patent date on the forend iron.