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I wouldn't shoot 3 1/2" loads in this. It's not even 'proof steel'. In one of the pics I thought I saw damascus pattern. I wonder who 'proofed' it and stamped up the top of the barrels. Buyer beware for sure. http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=509640995
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Picture 12 shows the Damascus pattern clearly. Yikes!
Last edited by Roundsworth; 09/28/15 10:08 AM.
GMC(SW) - USN, Retired (1978-2001)
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I told a collector friend to stay away, this was a nice old collector that has had unwise / unsafe mods.
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This gun is a made up gun as the Longrange was not made in a 10 gauge. It was made in 1917.
The Longrange wildfowl gun was first made in 1923, and was only made in 12 gauge on Regular frame.
The 10 gauge was made in an Ideal Grade and most came with London Steel barrels. Damascus steel was available until around 1917.
This seller is either not knowledgeable about these guns or is trying to pull a fast one over on some one.
I definitely would not shoot this gun as now the chamber has been lengthened and the wall thickness has to be significantly thinned.
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Just looking at the stamping of the letter on the barrels and rib show that it was done with stamping dies and an unsteady hand.
I guess the seller thought 'no proof laws; no problem'. Before considering purchase ask the seller to test fire it and stand at least 100 yards away. He should be locked up! Lagopus.....
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Very "Special" indeed   Crolle pattern clearly seen beneath the blue  Winchester "Proof Steel" is Chrome Moly introduced with the M21 in 1931, and replaced the "Nickel Steel" on M12 & M97.
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3 bids???
"There's a sucker born every minute"
David Hannum, in criticism of both P. T. Barnum
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I saw a Crescent 410 a while back made up to look like an LC Smith and it had that serial number preceded by an S which I thought LC Smith did not use. My uninformed guess is it might not even be an LC Smith.
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I sent a message to the seller pointing out the problems with the gun. We will see how he responds. Many honest sellers I have sent notes to in the past who have made mistakes in their listing have been appreciative and corrected their listing. We'll see....here is the note:
"Please understand this is a "made up" gun. L.C. Smith never made a 3 1/2" ten gauge. And the barrels are obviously Damascus! To suggest 3 1/2" shells can be shot in it is extremely dangerous! And the lettering on top of the barrel is obviously hand stamped with a rather unsteady hand. Strongly suggest you correct the listing."
When an old man dies a library burns to the ground. (Old African proverb)
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The description now includes "Damascus barrels" - I dunno whether this is a change or not.
Oh, yeah. It looks like there's an ivory bead, too.
No end of headaches with this one.
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