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Ford:
I took English as a 2nd language with Southern being 1st so are you yea or nay on the chambering being the 6.5X55 Swede? If yea & the client a sportsman in the U.S. of A., why 6.5X55mm when Adolph had his own cartridge demons?
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Raimey
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Raimey,
I don't have the rifle "in hand", to measure the chamber; but I believe it is 6.5x55 Swede. It has marks consistent with that, and a rimless extractor(according to the link). As to why, I have no idea other than the customer wanted it. Since it is not marked Adolf, I don't know if it is one of his. He was a self promoter and would have likely had his name on it.
Mike
Last edited by Der Ami; 12/23/15 01:26 PM.
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  Kind Regards, Raimey rse
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This clearly shows a rimless extractor, but I don't know what the second spring loaded plunger is for. The rifle firing pin comes in at a strange angle.
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That does not look like Adolph quality checkering and most of his work was not signed. Too bad Petrov is not around when cases like this come up. FWIW.
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I think the 1923 proof makes it doubtful that it is an Adolph gun. I think by that date, his business was a bust. I have never seen an Adolph gun that was not signed.
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Raimey and Mike, I've turned the "Fred Adolph" over to my favorite gunsmith, Mike Merker now that I'm back in Hendersonville, NC. He's going to repair/replace the rifle firing pin, do a chamber cast to solve this caliber thing once and for all. BTW, we tried a 6.5x55 Swede and a 6.5x55 Mauser and both of their cartridge bodies were to thick to seat in the chamber. He's guessing the cast will confirm it's a 6.5x54 Mannlicher-Schoenauer, even though the proof mark says "6.4x55". Will let you guys know what we learn. Thanks for everyone's help on this.
Sam Hershfield Bradenton, FL and Hendersonville, NC
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Can't wait to hear....
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Raimey
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It very well could be 6.5x54MS then. The head diameter of the MS cartridge is smaller than the other two. The proofmarks were never intended to represent the nominal caliber( until 1939 law), rather they showed actual measurements.
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Raimey and Der Ami, not sure I updated you. The gunsmith chamber cast proved the Adolph is indeed a 6.5x54 Mannlicher Shoenauer. I got some ammo from Selway Armory and can't wait to try it.
Sam Hershfield Bradenton, FL and Hendersonville, NC
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