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It's not a Prussian Sauer!! When this gun was manufactured, Prussia don't exists no longer.
Sauer & Sohn, Suhl,(1945 - 1990 DDR)was expropriate by the Soviets and goes to Eckernförde, West Germany.
This side by side shotgun was manufactured with fake intentional only for export by Fortuna-Werke DDR (German Democratic Republic, the communist part of Germany) after 1950.
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 Looks like it was issued a serial number in circa 1906 - 1907 and was among the export wares probably for S,D&G as this was about their peak while Lindner was doing an expansion to fill orders & setting his son to begin to take the reins. Not a pigeon variant that I can see & more than likely the small crown on the flats, near the Sauer fella process marks noting assembly w/in the Sauer facility, denotes shooting performance. Anyway it lacks the other larger crown. Modell designation probably that of US retailer issued. Beside the serial nr. and encircled S&S on the aft lug, what is the other character, 4? Cheers, Raimey rse
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It's not a Prussian Sauer!! When this gun was manufactured, Prussia don't exists no longer.
Sauer & Sohn, Suhl,(1945 - 1990 DDR)was expropriate by the Soviets and goes to Eckernförde, West Germany.
This side by side shotgun was manufactured with fake intentional only for export by Fortuna-Werke DDR (German Democratic Republic, the communist part of Germany) after 1950 Well, I recommend Wikepedia for the Prussian History, no fake  ..: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preußen Und glaube mir, GER, wer glaubt, er könnte den Leuten hier im Forum etwas vormachen, der muss früher aufstehen...  Nichts für ungut, Gunwolf
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Just how early Wolfgang?
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Very, very early, Raimey! Such a knowledge here on the DGS Forum, second to none!
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Thank you gentlemen.....now, is it worth $1800 US to use shooting trap, helice, waterfowl and sporting clays? I am not a strict collector in that sense, but appreciate a well-made shooter and own other Sauers & Simsons. I had some question about the PRUSSIA stamping.
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The Sauer & Sohn Modell Nr. 14 being an Anson & Deeley Body Action w/ upper & lower scears is a workhorse. Does the tubeset measure 32" or 81cm? Either are very rare on an imported S&S into the U.S. of A.
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32 inches..... a well built workhorse is exactly what I want. Tell me more about the quality of this gun and if $1800 U.S. Is a fair price.
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Fact is there are no proofs from the era of Prussia on this gun.
The proof marks as shown are from the era of DDR (German Democratic Republic), used since 1950 from Suhl proof house.
The mark of the eagle is the finishing proof. U under crown is the proof for scrutinize, W under crown is the proof for choked barrels.
Due this proofs, "MADE IN PRUSSIA" on this gun must be a fake, the formal abolition of Prussia occured 25.February 1947.
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