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OK Larry, everyone gets it. You are so stuck on looking for small things to denigrate Trump that you couldn't see or hear what he said about illegal immigration, jobs, the economy, the proliferation of the Welfare State, national security, foreign policy disasters, energy policy, shabby treatment of military veterans, weakening of our military, disastrous trade deals, etc.

No, Trump has not gone into fine detail about his ideas and proposals, nor has anyone else detailed how they would proceed with their promises and how they would get them implemented. Trump has not shown us how he built a multi-billion dollar real estate empire detailing each nail, brick, or girder either. But we know he got it done.

As for your ridiculous obsession with Trump's tax returns... frankly, if I was advising Trump, I would simply tell him to say that I will release my tax returns when Barack Obama releases his education transcripts and Hillary coughs up her thousands of deleted e-mails and her transcripts from her Goldman Sachs speeches, for which she was paid $675,000. Trump has been audited by the IRS numerous times. If he had broken any laws, the IRS would have come down on him like a ton of bricks. They haven't.

The voters obviously thought Trump was a better choice than Bush in many of these areas, especially trade and illegal immigration. They didn't choose Trump over Bush simply because they preferred Trump's personality. They didn't want another Bush, especially one like 43 who moved too far left on spending and did not deal with some of the real serious problems we face... even if he was far superior to Al Gore or John Kerry.

But that's all water over the dam. What I'm wondering now is this... If Jeb, or Cruz, or Rubio, or Kasich, or any of Trump's 16 contenders had become the presumptive nominee... what kinds of reasons would you and others be dredging up to excuse not supporting them instead of the extreme anti-gun Liberal Left Socialist Hillary Clinton???

I absolutely did not like Mitt Romney's past history on guns, but nothing could have stopped me from going to the polls to cast one vote for him and against Obama.

Well Craig, you can toss red meat to the "I'm mad as hell and I'm not gonna take it any more!" crowd and do well on the stump, while talking about deporting 11 million illegals, building a wall and getting the Mexicans to pay for it, and making America great again. All wonderful applause lines, courtesy of a reality star.

What I meant with the "just OK" part is that Jeb is not a great orator. But how many JFK's, Ronald Reagans, and--dare I say it--Bill Clintons are there?

Reagan had ideas that caused him to be accused of being simplistic. Like on the Cold War: "We win, they lose!" But he had a plan to get there. And did. Trump, on the other hand . . . is attacking him an attack within the party? Is it an attack on a real Republican or a real conservative? Trump likes to point out that Reagan had once been a New Deal Democrat. But he came to political prominence giving speeches for Barry Goldwater, and had served as governor of California. His credentials were pretty clear. Trump has been a Republican and a conservative . . . maybe since the start of this election cycle? Most Republicans don't donate to the Clintons and Rahm Emmanuel.

Ok, here is a template that provides peek into the future:

Future regulation is likely to include....

Now you know why I bought lifetime supply of .300H&H ammo.

We can now see that Larry Brown will be like the Energizer Bunny when it comes to looking for excuses to denigrate Trump. Trump has donated to many politicians over the years while playing the games necessary to survive in business. From the Koch brothers, to Trump, to GE and General Motors, they all do it, and this is part of the "pay-to-play" system Trump is rebelling against.

For dense Larry, who is pretending to ignore me, here is a Politifact/Punditfact link exploring the lie that Trump has supported Democrats more than Republicans. In fact, since 1989, Trump has donated over $350,000 more to Republicans running for federal and state offices, while residing in a very Blue Democrat controlled state. Trump has given $584,850 to Democrats and $961,140 to the GOP over the last 26 years.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/sta...-democrats-and/



Edit: Jagermeister, I never click on links from anti-gun trolls and proud Obama supporters. You can stop wasting time taking pictures of guns you merely rent to try to convice us you are one of us. You don't even own a double. I'd think, IF you were smart... big if, that you might rent a double and take pictures of it too.

Look, I'm not supporting any of those measures, but am trying to help people by allowing them to look into the future so that they can take steps to prepare for what is coming.

I'm pretty sure I'm not one of your "others" Keith, since Clinton is anathema to me. But I can answer your question as one who can't support Trump: I would have supported any of the other candidates you listed.

Jeb is an Establishment Republican, as well as the ultimate insider. He's part of a ruling dynasty. Had he become President, I doubt that the current system would have been changed in any meaningful way. At least Trump is not from the political class, has real world experience, and is talking about changing the system, something he has been describing the need to do so for years. Supporting Trump is in many ways a "roll of the dice", but I'll gladly take that choice over the others.

Well . . . glad I only have to read Keith when someone else quotes him. But just for fun and games:

Did I ever say Trump donated ONLY to Democrats? It's funny. You're a Republican politician, you vote the wrong way once or maybe twice and you're a RINO. You're compromising your principles. So a businessman like Trump isn't compromising his if he donates to both sides? He's so badly in need of money that he has to toss some to Dems for "business purposes"? Darn . . . so compromising your principles (assuming you have principles to compromise in the first place) for business purposes and to make money is OK, but compromising them for political purposes is not? I don't get it.

If any of the contenders still in towards the end--Rubio, Cruz, Kasich--were the presumptive nominee, I'd be quite pleased. And much more confident about beating Hillary.

I could not support any of the establishment candidates.

I know why Larry Brown finds fault with Trump....(because of Trumps "Muslim Values").

But why would any red blooded American not support Trump ?

Effectively shutting the door on all internet sales of ammunition in California. But they ain't done yet. A death by a thousand cuts, they'll make it such a pain in the ass to own a gun most will say, why bother.