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You speak from experience Mike A! Perhaps hunted the same spots from your U of Idaho days.

Hunted with a friend in HS who's dad kept a boat in Clarkston. On one trip (I wasn't along), one of his dad's friends did happen to fall off a ledge and needed to be medevac'd out! Sounded like he had some serious injuries.

In that instance a sling wouldn't have helped much, as I was told he was swinging on an over head chukar while standing on a narrow ledge and lost his footing.


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Originally Posted By: gunut
Originally Posted By: L. Brown
Very nice score, Ted.

As you know, the French like slings on shotguns.


that is because of their automatic response to drop whatever firearm they may be carrying and raise their hands whenever someone raises their voice.....the sling has saved many a French SxS from unnecessary damage, so much so that they even built some SxSs with the sling built right in.....


"Build". That sling is refered to as the "Bretelle Automatic". It is still possible to get one to this day. I ordered a new 16 gauge R11, for a good friend, that was reviewed in Shooting Sportsman by Vic Venters, that was equipped with that sling.

I never cared for it, as the sling is a bit narrow, and less supportive of the weight of the gun as a regular sling. OK in a pinch, I guess, but, I much prefer the Bretelle Darne.

There are a lot of pre war Darnes floating around with the fitting in the stock, but, the sling missing in action. That is a shame.

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Originally Posted By: L. Brown
Very nice score, Ted. Between that and the Richland/Prandelli & Gasperini, you've been doing well lately.


You probably missed these two, Larry. A big, 28" heavy barreled 12 and a wisp of a 20 gauge, both late 1940s vintage guns, both in near unused condition. I have to bend a trigger on the 20, and I am considering having the 12 restocked to match my other 12. The big 12 has too much drop and cast off for me to deal with. That work would be done in France.



I've had the 28 for a while, actually.

I really don't need any more guns.

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Ted:

What are you going to use for Grousmas this year, a 20 or a 28 (or both)?

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Well, still gotta' get through the 4th of July with all ten fingers, but, as a quick rule of thumb, I only bring a single gauge of gun to hunt with on a trip like that. I did bring my model 17 for you to see the first year, but, I didn't bring any ammunition for it, IIRC.
Either the Darne 12 with the sling, or the Darne 20 from last year. Thats my guess, at this point.


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Cool stuff Ted!

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I got a progress report from Geoffroy, today:


The original 60s vintage plastic buttplate I hoped to use had internal cracks that became apparent when it was warmed up to be fitted. My options were horn, ebony, walnut or a pad, pretty much what was available at the factory, back in the day, although rosewood was an option back then too. I went with checkered ebony. Geoffroy will retouch the engraving on the screws before he sends it back.

This is the fitting for the sling, fitted up in the stock. The screw has to be contoured, timed, and then it has to be hardened, and tempered to a straw color. The stock was not refinished:



Side view of the ebony. The stock was not cut:



I expect it in a week or two. Looks good, from here.

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Originally Posted By: gunut
Originally Posted By: L. Brown
Very nice score, Ted.

As you know, the French like slings on shotguns.


that is because of their automatic response to drop whatever firearm they may be carrying and raise their hands whenever someone raises their voice.....the sling has saved many a French SxS from unnecessary damage, so much so that they even built some SxSs with the sling built right in.....



Genius!!!
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Ted, it is looking great!
Not all French "dropped" guns and raised their hands. 1.15 million Frenchmen were killed in combat during the 4 years WWI was fought on or near their soil. When the Germans advanced on Paris, French soldiers were taken to the front in taxi-cabs and stalled the German advance. Yes, the Doughboys helped turn the tide and made the difference, but the suffering in deaths by the French combatants was staggering compared with the deaths of 53,000 Americans. Growing up in the shadow of WWII, I always heard the dropped once and never fired reference attributed to the Italian Army. That and their tanks had one speed forward and 4 in reverse. Gil

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Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe

I had a guy custom make these.


I don't remember who made them, but when Gaylan's Sporting Goods were in business one could find the very thing there. While not particularly comfortable when gun carried is heavier the rubbery strip prevents sling from shifting and when not in use it could be put away into larger coat pocket.

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