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One of my friends just picked up a hammerless H&H 12 bore Paradox. With it is the sizer, crimping tool, and bullet mold. He is not a bullet caster so the job fell to me to help him out. Any thoughts on what the correct bullet hardness should be? I see references to "hardened" but no specifics. Seyfried's article in Handloader suggests a 20/1 alloy and I'll likely go with that unless other wisdom prevails. I have plenty of pure lead, wheel weights and linotype as well as several pounds of tin. Thanks in advance.

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Lucky friend! True modern loaded Paradox ammo is quite expensive. A friend of mine had one and with a bit of experimentation we found that Sellior & Bellot rifled slug ammunition grouped perfectly. It uses the 1oz. Brenneke slug and is for 2 1/2" chambers too. Comes in packs of five and at a respectable price. Lagopus.....

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Wish I could give you a direct answer. A few hardness data points. 58 cal Minnie Balls always dead soft. 45/70 40/65 for BPC Silhouette 1/25 about average. Smaller bores like 32/40 1/20.

New wheel weights worthless, most have a lot of other metals. I only cast with pure lead alloyed with pure tin.

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I found this on another forum and went with Holland and Holland's recommendation of 15/1. I cast up one batch so far. My friend's Paradox came with a set of tools exactly like these minus the instruction sheet.




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Absolutely beautiful. Thanks.

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Nice, good thing about more tin is better fill out. Yours are just right.

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Skeetex, the ones I got came in packs of five with a wild boar on the box. I guess they were intended for boar shooting. The box was marked 'Special Slug'. I can't recall the exact price but they were not much more than ordinary 12 bore ammo. The great thing was that they shot true. Lagopus.....

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Kit is interesting, including a sizer. I guess thin at the muzzle right size bullet is essential. Lead Rifle bullets will swage as they are fired a few thousands to proper bore diameter. That's probably hard on a Paradox.

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A few years ago I was in search of a 12 gauge slug to use in a Army & Navy “Jungle Gun”, the bores were ,729. H&H Paradox slugs had a cauton that they were not to be used in a bore size less than .735, so they were ruled out.
I found the S&B 12gauge 2 ˝” , they were just what I was looking for, but sorry, they were not available in the USA.
I found the “Jungle Gun” a new home and I will pass this informationon to him.


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