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I need a Double Trigger Model 21 in 16 gauge to fill a slot in my modest cabinet. It'll fit right between 12 and 20 gauge Double trigger guns already in my possession. 26" Full/Mod, PG, SFE, Single Bead, Good dimensions to Makers butt plate. Condition is used not abused with lever right of center. Availability seems to be a little on the thin side. Any thoughts on value? Thanks   
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Looks like an earlier M21- as from the pg shape and checkering pattern. Extractors or ejectors? Like the Fox guns, the m21 in 16 and 20 gauge had the same size frame- nice lines- $4K range, depending on ejectors or extractors. IMO- and I only own 1 Model 21- a 1949 era field grade 12- 28" SST, Ej- SPFE--I am no expert, and also my SWAG reflects my basic avoidance to the 16 gauge offerings- mainly due to higher shell cost than with a 12. I would not own this M21, which I like for pheasant hunting, except for the kindness of a bachelor uncle, who willed it to me.
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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While you could get whatever you wanted, isn't a 26" bbl in Full/Mod a bit unusual. Before pricing I would want to check with Cody to see if it started out that way. The Bbl markings are on top? Nice looking early gun! I really like the 20's and 16's!!
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Fox, Ejectors (corrected, you learn something new everyday), 16 on its' frame, 20 on its' own frame. The Bbl markings are on top? Nice looking early gun! Yes, on top 
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I'm quite sure that the gun in your photos has ejectors. The pin behind the forend is not present on extractor guns.
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Nice attention to detail, Sir. You are right, a telltale axle pin just as on ejector L.C. Smith guns-- I agree somewhat that M&F on 26" barrels might be more commonly found on 28" barrels, but never say never, right?
"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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I'm quite sure that the gun in your photos has ejectors. The pin behind the forend is not present on extractor guns. Great call! Thanks. Here's a '33 DT 20 gauge, No Pin  '33 DT 12 with ejectors (and pin) 
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While you could get whatever you wanted, isn't a 26" bbl in Full/Mod a bit unusual. Before pricing I would want to check with Cody to see if it started out that way. The Bbl markings are on top? Nice looking early gun! I really like the 20's and 16's!! According to Schwing, G2155B 16 ga 26" Full/Mod Double Trigger Selective Ejectors Other 26" offerings were DT w/extractors as well as Mod/CYL chokes in both extractor and ejector guns
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I sold a 16, single trigger, two barrel 21 six years ago for just under 7k. The longer, tighter barrels were like new from lack of use. The shorter barrels were well worn from many years of heavy use before I bought it. I figured the Winchester, model 21 name added a third to the value to the buyer. I did not use it much because it was much heavier than a comparable Smith or Fox. If lead shot were legal I always though it would have been a heck of a duck gun for the blind. So 3500-4000 does sound about right but it always comes down to supply, condition and buyer/seller expectations of fair prices. Funny thing to me is when ever I had a double trigger 21 for sale it was always a minus in the sale but when trying to buy it is always claimed to be a plus.
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