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gold40 #453327 08/15/16 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted By: gold40

The other open question is whether or not our grandkids will even be allowed in 2040 to keep any guns they inherited from Grandpa. gold40


How you vote in November might have some relevance to the question you pose. I know my single vote doesn't amount to anything but at least I have the satisfaction of knowing I'm cancelling out my liberal neighbor's vote...Geo

old colonel #453337 08/15/16 05:43 PM
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Colonel, your last sentence describes my situation exactly except I have no wish to add another gun---any gun:

"Sense long ago told me I needed one good shotgun, likely a 12 ga O/U with ckoke tubes and it could do everything. It is true today, except desire puts far more than that in the safe."

I bought a 12ga Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon o/u with choke tubes. It will do everything on ducks and geese from the blind. For less serious afield, I fall back on old American and European classics with handloads.

Field grade is doomed, as you say, from what I see around here. A new generation wouldn't use a double if given to them. There isn't one on the racks of two nearby gun stores. Mostly semis and a few pumps.

I like your notion of rentals although I've never sold one. I was careful in selecting doubles and have never had a hankering for higher grades of cosmetics. A good gun is a good gun.

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I have two nephews.....22 and 27. Their dad, my brother, doesn't hunt or shoot. Or he doesn't unless my other brother and I take him.

Their mother didn't like guns when they were growing up. They have lived 2500 miles away for a very long time....long enough that I could have no influence on their thinking about guns, hunting and shooting.

Of their own accord, they have gone through the bureaucratic hell required up here to be able to acquire and own guns. They have taken their hunter safety courses. They are now waiting for their PAL (Canadian possession and acquisition license) to show up in the mail. And they are strongly urging me to come those 2500 miles this fall and show them how to hunt. Which I will do.

My point? Unlike a few doomsdayers here, I don't think all is lost. Not everyone wants semi autos only, black guns only, cheap guns only. Maybe the collectible market may contract but the shooting and hunting market doesn't have to.

I think the rise of the semi autos is related to it being the gun of choice for waterfowlers. And having done both kinds, I'd say there is a lot of gear that can be advertised for duck hunters. And those advertising dollars pay for more screen time, magazine pages, websites, than I think the upland hunters get pushed at them.


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King Brown #453340 08/15/16 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: King Brown


Field grade is doomed, as you say, from what I see around here. A new generation wouldn't use a double if given to them. There isn't one on the racks of two nearby gun stores. Mostly semis and a few pumps.



King, the issue isn't doubles vs semis. It is one of price. That's all. You can get as good a semi as can be had for the opening price point of one of the B guns. And pumps are way less.

I'm on a gun forum with 150,000 members. Thread after thread after thread is about what is a good gun to buy for under $500 (Up here in Canada). Hunting is expensive and until you know you like it, and even some time after, it's hard for a lot of young people to get that kind of scratch together.

Oh, and my nephews.....they really want me to bring some of my SxS's with me.

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King Brown #453342 08/15/16 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Colonel, your last sentence describes my situation exactly except I have no wish to add another gun---any gun:

"Sense long ago told me I needed one good shotgun, likely a 12 ga O/U with ckoke tubes and it could do everything. It is true today, except desire puts far more than that in the safe."

I bought a 12ga Beretta 686 Silver Pigeon o/u with choke tubes. It will do everything on ducks and geese from the blind. For less serious afield, I fall back on old American and European classics with handloads.

Field grade is doomed, as you say, from what I see around here. A new generation wouldn't use a double if given to them. There isn't one on the racks of two nearby gun stores. Mostly semis and a few pumps.

I like your notion of rentals although I've never sold one. I was careful in selecting doubles and have never had a hankering for higher grades of cosmetics. A good gun is a good gun.


Sounds exactly like what a socialist would say about gun ownership. One is enough, and a proletariat version at that. All for the common good.
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gunluvr #453357 08/15/16 07:34 PM
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This is a very interesting thread and the responses are all excellent. Thank You! I hope it continues a little longer. I might also clear up my reason for asking what I did. I was not asking for the purpose of collecting for profit. I probably didn't make myself clear, but I was trying to get a feel for whether prices are high now so I could theoretically put off acquiring certain inflated price models until later [when I am out of University and prices have hopefully stabilized]. Especially if the prices are unusually high now. I know the timing and buying of specific models is almost impossible. My father has always said "You make any money on a gun when you buy it at a good price". I appreciate and respect all your opinions and will consider them carefully.

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gunluvr #453367 08/15/16 08:23 PM
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last good year for sxs gun sales was 2007...


birds are gone...dogs are gone...awl we got left are the gons...
John Roberts #453373 08/15/16 09:50 PM
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Wrong guy, John. One isn't enough for a serious hunter, evidenced by my post and gunroom. Buying carefully doesn't infer proletarian tastes. I don't subscribe to a consumerism of we are what we own. I believe possessions are a burden and in a common good.

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Gunluvr, the time to buy a gun is when you have the money. If you are starting out keep it simple. Decide what you are likely to use the gun for, it can narrow your choices down. If I had to start out slow I'd buy a Sterlingworth 12 ga., 28" or 30", Mod and Full and a second gun would be a Ithaca NID 20ga., 26" or 28" barrels in IC/MOD or MOD/Full. With just those two you could shoot just about anything that walks, flies upland or waterfowl. From dove, quail size, rabbits to big honking geese. Plus 12 and 20 ammo is very easy to find at reasonable prices.

Here is my rational for the Sterlingworth. I can find a very decent shape Sterlingworth gun in the $600-800.00 price range with no problem. It will handle just about anything I want to shoot in it and the gun will last me a lifetime. The choice of a Ithaca NID 20 is based in large part in the fact that NIDs were all modern guns, modern steels, with 2 3/4" chambers and decent stock dimensions. I can find a Ithaca NID for several hundred less than either a Serlingworth or LC Smith. And there is no way I can afford a Parker 20 on a limited budget.

Best of all even after I have those two I can always find a reason that I just need one more gun, well more than one to be honest. smile And shopping is most of the real fun anyways.

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Between 1990 and about 2010 I beefed up my gun collection. Among them I purchased 11 Model 21s. I would just buy one and stick it in the safe as an investment. About 5 years ago I sold several of them including 9 of the 21s, Browning Supperposed, and many others.

I wanted to travel which was something I had never done. And travel in style. So I paid cash for a C6 Corvette and never looked back. I more than doubled my money on the guns that I had sold.

I have been happy ever since. I still shoot once in a while and have several nice guns left. But at closed to 70 years old, I have a hard time getting out in the field like I used to.

I saw the day coming when all these young peckerwoods would want their Tom Knapp 10 shot guns and their AK47s. So I got rid of a lot of my guns. I got tired of seeing them sit in the safe.

I'm glad to see you guys keeping up the tradition. So forget about value and resale. Those days are probably gone. Remember the feeling of being out in the wild with a beautiful gun and caressing it like it was a beautiful woman. And pass along those feelings to your kids and your grandkids. That's the return you'll get on your investment. It's worth a lot more than the money you'll get out of them.

And hello to all you old timers who I haven't talked to for a while.

God Bless.

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