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I am tempted to try BP for ducks this season, using brass shells in a Damascus hammer ten. Nice Shot appears to be unavailable, leaving bismuth or ITX-10.

Any advice from those with experience?

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ITX 10 has worked well for me in my old 2.5" guns, 7/8 oz of 6's. It should work just as well in your BP shotgun. There is American E shot available also, much like bismuth but cheaper.





American E shot link

http://www.reloadingspecialtiesinc.com/Reloading_Specialties_Inc/New!_American_Shot.html

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Call me odd
I got a well used L.C. Smith 10 gauge hammerless Syracuse.
Alcan all brass hulls
Remington *57 primers
Single F Black powder
MEC 10 gauge steel shot wad trimmed to fit
MEC #3 steel shot
Over shot card
Elmer's glue
Does fine
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What sort of prices are we talking about? There none quoted on their site.


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If you plan on using only card wads (no plastic shot cups) with your black powder loads, I highly recommend using only bismuth. All other non-toxic shot, other than steel, contains tungsten in some form. Even if the pellet is claimed to be soft, i.e. it can be crushed, the tungsten that it contains will be abrasive to your barrel.

If you don't plan on shooting more than a hand full of rounds during a hunting season, this is probably a so what. If you plan on shooting hundreds or thousands of rounds, there is potential for erosion of your chamber and chokes.


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I plan on experimenting with black powder and pure copper shot for this season in the UK

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The problem with copper is that it is between Bismuth and Steel on the low end of density. Plus it must be annealed to be soft enough not to score barrels. Then the price is a little high at $2.00 a pound. It might work as a lead shot replacement but I'd rather use Bismuth if you can get it.

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I have two recipes that I use for a couple of old Parkers:

12g. Federal paper 2 3/4, 17g Red Dot, CB 1100 wad, 1oz lead. ~5000 psi

16g Cheddite 2 3/4 plastic, 19g Solo 1250, SG16 wad, 1 oz lead. ~7100 psi

Could bismuth be substituted (volume due to weighing a little less than lead) directly?

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Originally Posted By: randy
I have two recipes that I use for a couple of old Parkers:

12g. Federal paper 2 3/4, 17g Red Dot, CB 1100 wad, 1oz lead. ~5000 psi

16g Cheddite 2 3/4 plastic, 19g Solo 1250, SG16 wad, 1 oz lead. ~7100 psi

Could bismuth be substituted (volume due to weighing a little less than lead) directly?


As long as you keep the shot charge at or less than 1 ounce you will be OK. If your shot charge is less than 1 ounce due to volume difference your chamber pressure will be slightly less and your MV will be slightly higher.

By the way where are you finding Solo 1250. I haven't seen any available for a couple of years?

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That is good, I can run the bismuth through the same charge bar, without changing anything. Would I have to be concerned about a "squib" round?

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