December
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online Now
2 members (xausa, Hammergun), 81 guests, and 4 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics36,376
Posts511,113
Members14,103
Most Online462
Aug 5th, 2016
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 2 1 2
gold40 #454334 08/26/16 09:44 AM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,565
Likes: 9
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 2,565
Likes: 9
Here Spanish and Italian double 12's in non-ejector form cost so little. I have picked up excellent examples in near mint condition for around 30 to 40 and passed them on making about 10 to 20 profit mainly from people who just want to shift them. Still they are hard to sell. English non-ejectors in plain form can be had for between 100 and 150 with ejectors, depending on make, condition and quality from 400 to 1,500. I think there was a slowdown in the market due to the uncertainty of the lead shot issue with people being reluctant to buy a gun they they maybe couldn't afford to feed. I am hoping things will pick up now. Exceptional examples and ones from top end makers will always find a buyer. Currently I have three boxlock ejectors that I am looking to sell in the U.K.; a near mint 90% example of a Webley & Scott double 12 with 28" barrels and 2 3/4" chambers, a Cogswell & Harrison double 12 with 28" barrels, very light gun with recent nitro re-proof and 2 1/2" chambers with an oak and leather case and a double 12 Sigot of Ferlach 28" barrels but with sleeved barrels. I'm not a dealer so just advertising locally with a view to shifting them on. I just hope the price goes up a little now. Most dealers I speak to seem to have quite a few side by sides for sale. I doubt if there will ever be a better time for U.S. investors to find a decent basic English gun. Lagopus.....

gold40 #454335 08/26/16 09:47 AM
Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 72
Sidelock
Offline
Sidelock

Joined: Nov 2009
Posts: 72
The market for British boxlocks is very soft! There are some wonderful buys out there if one looks diligently especially paying attention to barrel conditions... wall thicknesses, chokes and chamber lengths as they make fine field guns. I find they exhibit a certain charm and character not found in most Spanish boxlocks. Good luck...

Ed

gold40 #454356 08/26/16 12:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,001
Likes: 9
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,001
Likes: 9
When we say "soft", I think that's in specific reference to 12's. All the Brit smallbores command a good bit more money. American too of course, but in the case of the British guns, smallbores are even less common in comparison to 12's than they are with the old American classic doubles.

SKB #454390 08/26/16 09:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Originally Posted By: SKB
Don,
Is your system posted somewhere? No, but I share by email (you need Excel for the charts), or snail mail.

I have a nice little Army and Navy (Brand Value level three _ BV3) SLE built on a Webley screw grip action, 16 bore to boot. Nice rose and scroll and very nice wood (sounds like it could be an Original Quality grade two -OQ2,"A" grade). It will be nicely restored when placed for sale, great barrels reblacked and a proper oil finish, action original patena with crisp engraving (sounds like Current Condition level four - CC4). I have a price in mind but wonder what your system values it at.
Steve


So, BV3-OQ2-CC4 = $5,563 and the 16 bore will add, probably, around 1.5X, although, 16 bore has become somewhat "soft" recently.

This gun was also supplied in lower OQ grades.

Questions?

DDA

gold40 #454413 08/27/16 07:12 AM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 329
Sidelock
Offline
Sidelock

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 329
Rocketman,

A question, where is your "system" posted?


Rob

NRA Benefactor Member
gold40 #454414 08/27/16 07:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,380
Likes: 105
SKB Offline
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 6,380
Likes: 105
Very, very close to the number I had in mind. Thank you.
Steve


http://www.bertramandco.com/

ACGG Professional metalsmith, firearms import services.
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Claybird, it isn't posted. I share by email or snail mail. If interested, send an email address or land address and I'll send you the file or hardcopy. The file runs in Excel.

DDA

SKB #454507 08/27/16 09:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Values based on sufficient experience and my numbers run very close. I'm sure you have said "sufficient" experience.

I developed the charts to jump start me on values. It quickly became apparent that there are lot of us who can use the jump start. Not a lot of people get to handle enough guns on going to develop value intuition. The charts also help focus some required learning/knowledge. If you practice valuing guns on auction sites, you get feedback from the prices realized chart after the auction.

Hope this helps a little.

DDA

gold40 #454597 08/28/16 07:29 PM
Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,001
Likes: 2
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: May 2011
Posts: 1,001
Likes: 2
Rocketman. You are over your topic level and won't accept a new pm


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
Tamid #454608 08/28/16 08:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 5,941
Likes: 3
Oooops! I'll fix it right away.

Fixed.

DDA

Last edited by Rocketman; 08/28/16 08:53 PM.
Page 2 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2021 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.070s Queries: 35 (0.030s) Memory: 0.8434 MB (Peak: 1.8991 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2021-12-06 11:35:03 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS