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Here Spanish and Italian double 12's in non-ejector form cost so little. I have picked up excellent examples in near mint condition for around 30 to 40 and passed them on making about 10 to 20 profit mainly from people who just want to shift them. Still they are hard to sell. English non-ejectors in plain form can be had for between 100 and 150 with ejectors, depending on make, condition and quality from 400 to 1,500. I think there was a slowdown in the market due to the uncertainty of the lead shot issue with people being reluctant to buy a gun they they maybe couldn't afford to feed. I am hoping things will pick up now. Exceptional examples and ones from top end makers will always find a buyer. Currently I have three boxlock ejectors that I am looking to sell in the U.K.; a near mint 90% example of a Webley & Scott double 12 with 28" barrels and 2 3/4" chambers, a Cogswell & Harrison double 12 with 28" barrels, very light gun with recent nitro re-proof and 2 1/2" chambers with an oak and leather case and a double 12 Sigot of Ferlach 28" barrels but with sleeved barrels. I'm not a dealer so just advertising locally with a view to shifting them on. I just hope the price goes up a little now. Most dealers I speak to seem to have quite a few side by sides for sale. I doubt if there will ever be a better time for U.S. investors to find a decent basic English gun. Lagopus.....
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The market for British boxlocks is very soft! There are some wonderful buys out there if one looks diligently especially paying attention to barrel conditions... wall thicknesses, chokes and chamber lengths as they make fine field guns. I find they exhibit a certain charm and character not found in most Spanish boxlocks. Good luck...
Ed
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When we say "soft", I think that's in specific reference to 12's. All the Brit smallbores command a good bit more money. American too of course, but in the case of the British guns, smallbores are even less common in comparison to 12's than they are with the old American classic doubles.
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Don,
Is your system posted somewhere? No, but I share by email (you need Excel for the charts), or snail mail.
I have a nice little Army and Navy (Brand Value level three _ BV3) SLE built on a Webley screw grip action, 16 bore to boot. Nice rose and scroll and very nice wood (sounds like it could be an Original Quality grade two -OQ2,"A" grade). It will be nicely restored when placed for sale, great barrels reblacked and a proper oil finish, action original patena with crisp engraving (sounds like Current Condition level four - CC4). I have a price in mind but wonder what your system values it at.
Steve So, BV3-OQ2-CC4 = $5,563 and the 16 bore will add, probably, around 1.5X, although, 16 bore has become somewhat "soft" recently. This gun was also supplied in lower OQ grades. Questions? DDA
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Rocketman,
A question, where is your "system" posted?
Rob
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Very, very close to the number I had in mind. Thank you.
Steve
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Claybird, it isn't posted. I share by email or snail mail. If interested, send an email address or land address and I'll send you the file or hardcopy. The file runs in Excel.
DDA
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Values based on sufficient experience and my numbers run very close. I'm sure you have said "sufficient" experience.
I developed the charts to jump start me on values. It quickly became apparent that there are lot of us who can use the jump start. Not a lot of people get to handle enough guns on going to develop value intuition. The charts also help focus some required learning/knowledge. If you practice valuing guns on auction sites, you get feedback from the prices realized chart after the auction.
Hope this helps a little.
DDA
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Rocketman. You are over your topic level and won't accept a new pm
Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
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Oooops! I'll fix it right away.
Fixed.
DDA
Last edited by Rocketman; 08/28/16 09:53 PM.
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