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Greg - glad to see that you are not wasting anytime getting out in the field!

I took my two boys up to NH yesterday to chase some grouse and woodcock. It was still a bit leafy and the flight birds have not yet started showing up in large numbers. But it was still a great fall day in the woods. The younger guy on the left was shooting his grandfather's Model 12 20 ga. (which Jim Wiegand brought back to life after 85 years of hard use) and scored the trifecta - grouse, woodcock and rabbit.

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Might not be the favorite, but, so far, the only one from this year:



Northwestern Minnesota, Louise, my 2 year old setter, your's truly, and Darne 20 gauge. Photo credit to our own Lloyd3.

The afternoons were almost too hot, plenty of leaves, green and otherwise, and bugs, too. I wouldn't have traded any of it for anything, however. I had a great time.


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Stan, that is a very nice "elsie". Out of over 38,000 16 gauges made there were only 220 with 32" barrels, it would be nice to know how many were made with the HOT and ejectors.
I have a Longrange 12 ga. Field Grade, 32" barrels, re-enforced loop, HOT and ejectors and is one of 30 made in that configuration. I'm sure yours is lower.


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David, I have been told it is one of three (Field grades), by an L C Smith collectors association member, but I have no way of knowing if that is accurate. All I know is that it is the only one I have ever seen, but that is a very small "sample".

Susie and I hit it off really quickly. There was another 32", a graded Smith 16 ga. on the table that day, but it was priced way out of my reach. When I saw that Susie's date of completion was the same as my birthday I groaned aloud. James, the owner, asked what was wrong. When I told him he said with a grin "Do you know an omen when you see one?" ......... I did.

She went with me to the cottage at Rick's that evening, and I fell asleep with her beside me in bed. We "bonded". blush

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Stan, I believe it. This year at the Southern, a friend from Louisiana brought his great uncles 16 ga. Ideal with 32" barrels, HOT and ejectors and had it on display at the L.C. Smith tent.
His great uncle bought it in 1924 from Von Lengerke & Antoine (Chicago) and used it for duck hunting for the "French Market". He had asked his uncle how many ducks he shot with it and the uncle said 3 car loads and he asked how many ducks fit into the trunk of a car, his reply was no 3 box cars. His great uncle along with other family members bought 1200 acres of marsh at the mouth of the West Pearl river and later the spot was called Hog Island. They knew what time the train came by and would meet it and load the ducks and muskrats for the markets in New Orleans.

A Research letter from our organization stated it was 1 of 148 Ideal Grades in 16 ga. with 32" barrels and only 83 made identical to it and only 4 like it produced in 1924.

I had asked him to write an article for the L.C. Smith journal and it was in the Summer 2016 journal.

A Research letter for yours would tell you the same.


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Thank you, David. Perhaps I should become a member of the LCS association, and request that letter. I do know that the original consignee was Hazard and Gould Sporting Goods and Hardware.

Very interesting background on the 32" Ideal grade.

Thank you for the information.

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Stan,
Although I don't encourage it you can order a letter without joining the LCSCA. The cost is higher, and, given the benefits you'll receive from being a member, you'll see that membership is a bargain !

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I'm just going to join. I'd like to get the newsletter, anyway. Thanks, tho'.

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Hi all, went out today and was able to shoot 3, but lost one, so only 2 in the bag. Hate losing a bird, rather miss than wound one. Anyway, a nice day, of course any day hunting is winner

I used my 16ga FN



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We finally got a little dry, cool weather with only a little wind. We moved a fair number of birds and was lucky enough to take a few home.

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