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Good day gents, the wife's in the mood and I need to treat myself. I'm looking at a new Rizzini BR550 28ga. 28" with choke tubes. 5lbs. 13oz. nice wood.
How does Rizzini quality stack up to an AYA #3 or #4 in the same gauge?
It would be a hunter with the odd trip to the SC course.
Thanks in advance.
Last edited by dal; 01/16/17 04:37 PM.
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I'd be interested in the response here, too. New AYA 453 boxlocks have really risen in price. You might find only used AYA #3 or #4 guns in the US. The one BR 550 I see around here is very well put together. I don't know if it has choke tubes though. The AYAs will not come from the factory with choke tubes.
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I don't know the Rizzini sxs from having my hands on it. But from a standpoint of price, I think your comparison should probably be to an AyA #2 sidelock as a somewhat more expensive gun and to a 4/53 boxlock as a slightly less expensive gun. Cabela's had a proprietary version of the 4/53, coin finished receiver with more engraving and somewhat nicer wood (IMO) than the standard 4/53, that might be the closest comparable AyA model. Sight unseen in the case of the Rizzini (other than photos), I think I'd take a very high condition Parker Reproduction 28ga over any of those other guns.
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I may be able to help. I have a Rizzini BR 550 in 20 ga with 30" tubes and a AyA 20 ga #2. The AyA has double triggers which are perfect, the Rizzini has a single trigger with a lot of creep. Inletting on the Rizzini is actually better but the wood on the AyA looks a shade better with a satin finish rather than the gloss. Rizzini offers choke tubes while my AyA at least is fixed chokes. Weight wise the Rizzini is a few ounces heavier but not drastic.Although I think the engraving on the Rizzini is embossed or at least by machine it is as nice as the AyA.
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Dal
Not sure how much help, I have several AYAs and one Rizzini (F.A.I.R.) o/u. In 28 gauge I enjoy both firearms. The little Rizzini was my go to gun for hairs, ptarmigan, grouse, doves and crows. I pretty much use it exclusively for crows and pigeon. I have a number 1 in 28 gauge and I use it for dove, grouse and quail. I love that little gun and I think I have ran several thousand rounds through it I have hunted the AYA hard in some of the nasty brush. But my advise is go with what feels best to you. I would steer you towards the AYA in a side lock or look at the little AYA round action in 28. good luck in your quest. Keep us posted.
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Thanks for the advice gents. Used scaled twentyeights are scarce in my parts, and when a good one does come up for sale, it usually gets mentioned on local upland boards, and is gone quickly. Good used AYA's, in particular, are even more scarce. I came upon this one and couldn't resist. New BR550 Small frame, 5 choke tubes, nice wood, and came at a discount. It has a 3 day no shoot return policy....so what the hey, I pulled the trigger. I'll swing it around for a couple of days and see how she feels. Plenty of nice twentyeights south of the boarder to choose from mind you, but with the price of our dollar and work required to bring it over, this one looked like a great option. Wood is a little lighter than I prefer, but maybe it will be darker once in the hand. 
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Very nice piece Dal! I have handled both these new Rizzini's, and all of the AYAs. I own and shoot well a 28 AYA #2. Before I saw that you had bought this beauty, I was going to suggest that Mark Reynolds' Bournebrook is the most equivalent to the BR550, but likely for 2 grand more. They are however beautifully finished and the near equivalent to a #2.. http://mwreynolds.com/HTML/shotAYA4Round23511.html I don't think you can go wrong either way. Enjoy the Rizzini!
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I own an 28 bore AYA #2 (purchased used) and a 28 Rizzini, which I bought new and is semi bespoke. I like them both and, to me, they seem of about equal quality and a lot of gun for the money. My local gunsmith is of a different opinion. He tells me the internals on the Rizzini have closer tolerances and better quality machined steel than the AYA.
I shoot the Rizzini a little better but I think that is because it weighs 5 lb. 12 oz, verses 5 lb. 7 oz. for the AYA. Most AYA No. 2's are closer to or above 6 pounds and the light weight of my AYA is one reason I bought it even through it feels a bit whippy and I don't shoot it that well. My shortcomings, I know, but a delight to carry.
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Thanks for the advice gents. Used scaled twentyeights are scarce in my parts, and when a good one does come up for sale, it usually gets mentioned on local upland boards, and is gone quickly. Good used AYA's, in particular, are even more scarce. I came upon this one and couldn't resist. New BR550 Small frame, 5 choke tubes, nice wood, and came at a discount. It has a 3 day no shoot return policy....so what the hey, I pulled the trigger. I'll swing it around for a couple of days and see how she feels. Plenty of nice twentyeights south of the boarder to choose from mind you, but with the price of our dollar and work required to bring it over, this one looked like a great option. Wood is a little lighter than I prefer, but maybe it will be darker once in the hand. Beautiful clean lines, striking gun. Excellent decision.
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I have one of the Cabelas AYA 4/53s in 28 Gauge. It has the coin finish with full engraving coverage and 29 inch barrels. Weight is 5 pounds 15 ounces. I find it to be an absolute delight to carry and shoot.
I have handled but not shot the Rizzini and found it to be a bit less lively than the AYA, with a bit thicker grip. The AYA feels better in my hands and is finished to a high enough level to warrant positive comments by several double gun aficionados at me club.
I doubt you would go wrong buying either. Enjoy your Rizzini.
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