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Friend has a 20ga Miroku which would be suitable for my grand daughter. I am trying to figure out a fair price. The same gun marked as a Charles Daly O/U would probably be valued around $900 dollars. Would the Miroku brand name reduce that significantly?
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Not to me Same gun, in fact, G.I. would buy a Miroku in Japan and when the got to New York, Daly had a shop to stamp the guns in the states. At least that is the story that I have heard for many years. http://www.gunbroker.com/Over-Under-Shotguns/BI.aspx?Keywords=miroku&g=300004Mike
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Why would the original makers name reduce the value of the gun?
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Miroku name is less known/recognized here than abroad, so worth something less(?), yes.
I'd be more interested in the gun's condition and the specification(s) meeting her need(s) for intended use.
There are more than one method of the forearm attaching. All work well enough, earlier versions were more labor intensive to build, not less reliable. No down side to early, it just takes a few moments longer to assemble.
Plan on eventually replacing a main spring if the gun is going to be used a lot, IMO some of the earlier guns did not quite have the spring temper correct for infinite durability, only a few tens of thousands of rounds.. and I do not think it makes a bit of dif. it the hammers are left cocked or the springs are unloaded when the guns are stored. I've seen people have a spring break both ways; the common factor being LOTS of use!
More than you asked, but they are good value if not abused.
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I have Mirokus and Dalys and there seems to be no practical difference, except that the Miroku guns sometimes have nicer wood and engraving than the Dalys. For me, that would offset the slight difference in market valuation.
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Given that Miroku has made over a million Citoris for Browning (among other guns, including the Browning sxs), I don't think the name Miroku is going to be a negative to anyone in this country who knows much about shotguns. Matter of fact, I can't think of any poorly-made shotguns that have come out of Japan--including those from SKB (when they were still made in Japan), Winchester's Olin-Kodensha operation, or Miroku. A whole lot of very solid guns, at reasonable prices.
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I currently have a 12ga/28in Anschutz marked Miroku...cant find anything wrong with any of the Miroku made guns....some of the earlier ones have v springs but that's fine.... $900 sounds more than fair unless its a shot to hell skeet gun.....
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