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I used to buy B&P 1 oz High Pheasant 6's for hunting and the 7's for target but supply was spotty so invested in a reloader. If your handy you can just about adapt any old 12ga 2 3/4" loader to load 2.5" shells. My last reloader was an old MEC 600 for $25 at a yard sale and MEC makes a short shell adaptor the just pops in and out. Hulls are free at the trap range, BPI has components and data and you never have to worry about finding shells. I don't even bother with 2 3/4" shells any longer, shooting 2.5" in everything.

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The OP specifically said he didn't want to get involved in reloading. I take his word for that.
I offered 3 price pts for MKT purchase.

I looked at the Caledonians, and they are $4/cs less than the B&P's which I KNOW, from having shot thousands of them,
are low pressure, and low recoil.

I've shot thousands of the Herter's L/R cartridges, and they are absolutely low recoil, but I cannot say they are low pressure. Since the payload is light, and the speed is lowish, I would guess there isn't any reason for them to exceed 7500psi, but as I said, I don't know.

And RST's products make me feel good when I look at their packaging. It shows I am a discerning shooter.
But ALSO, they're of consistently high quality, their pressures are known, and they work hard to support vintage shooters.
That's worth an extra couple hundred bucks a year to me. I absolutely love their 1oz #5's for pheasants.

I don't shoot many heavy loads in old guns. It's not that they weren't designed for it, it's just that I focus on my shooting, and not breaking my vintage toys.
So, I pound out a flat (or more) a week of the Herter's, and then move into the B&P's as a shoot approaches, and then into the RST's for game when fall arrives.

Using a low recoil light load is a great way to work out shooting problems.

I do occasionally envy the breaks that 1300fps cartridges provide. They obviously hit much harder. But hey, dead is dead. And I don't want my game all shot to pieces.


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I also use the RST 1 oz # 5-6 when hunting pheasants and they work just fine. I wont ever scrimp on ammunition when going afield. I was just looking for less a expensive alternative for casual clay shooting so I'll give the Herters LR shells a try.


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RST is highly recommended. B&P have become scarce.

If you'd like to try something different:

http://www.classicshooting.com/collections/holland-holland-sporting-cartridges

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PolyWads are plentiful.

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Does anyone know the pressure data for the H&H and/or PolyWad loads?

RST will gladly share their pressure data and because of that I shoot their shells.

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Give Jay a call, if you need to know pressures.

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H&H, or any other CIP-approved 2 1/2" load, will have a maximum service pressure of 10,730 psi. But they'll very likely be well under that. Brit shells are a good choice, but most of those you see in the States are field loads rather than target loads. Thus heavier than you might want for target shooting, as well as faster. But they'd be OK in terms of pressure.

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RST, Holland & Holland and Polywad shells are all good, I'm sure. I just wanted to stay away from $10 to $11 per box shells.


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