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James Flynn #482143 06/04/17 05:53 PM
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They catch us off guard also, but as of late more and more armed citizens are stopping assaults that are not considered terrorism and may be considered good muscle memory practice.

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While this is a VERY BIG problem, the solution is not very complex. Deport, immediately, every Muslim who is not a native born Briton. NOW! The rules have been established. I doubt anyone of the people who were indiscriminately murdering folks asked them if they had children or were employed or any of those things. They just KILLED them. indiscriminate deportation is way more humane than MURDER. Where to put them?...nearest Muslim country, they don't get a choice. They found their way there, let them find their way home. Harsh? You betcha...Violation of rights? Most likely, but no more than killing people just because they were there. World opinion? F**K em...Enough is enough...

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Originally Posted By: Last Dollar
While this is a VERY BIG problem, the solution is not very complex. Deport, immediately, every Muslim who is not a native born Briton. NOW! The rules have been established. I doubt anyone of the people who were indiscriminately murdering folks asked them if they had children or were employed or any of those things. They just KILLED them. indiscriminate deportation is way more humane than MURDER. Where to put them?...nearest Muslim country, they don't get a choice. They found their way there, let them find their way home. Harsh? You betcha...Violation of rights? Most likely, but no more than killing people just because they were there. World opinion? F**K em...Enough is enough...


Agree. It will take about 10 more of these in greater size and scope for the pacifists to perhaps wake up and start wholesale expulsion, no exceptions.

There should be no trial for whoever is arrested in connection. Just trot them out blindfolded as they scream and protest, then shoot them by firing squad on Picadilly. If two or three are innocent, so be it. If anyone protests it being lawless and cruel, say nothing. Not one word. Let the press raise all the hell they want. Desperate times require desperate measures. Britain may very well come under marshal law.

But it's got to get worse for that to happen, and it is going to get worse, a lot worse.
JR

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Unless, of course, it was you whom they marched out blind folded, and executed, without due process, eh John? I'm pissed off re the terrorism too, but due process of the law is the only civilized way to handle these situations. It is costly, but what if the wrong guy was pulled out of a line up? Everyone is entitled to due process imho, but once convicted, and no shadow of doubt, execute the sentence, and do it quickly.


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How many of the murdered people were the "Right" people?

James Flynn #482153 06/04/17 07:41 PM
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While I agree with my friend John that this is the right course of action for a God fearing country to pursue, and while I am grieved for the British citizens who have suffered and died, I remain even more concerned for the fate of my own country. This is also what we should be doing.

Consider .....How much responsibility does the current citizenship of a country bear for the sins of their forefathers? How often are the sins of the fathers visited upon the following generations? Tough questions to answer. While we (Americans) have had our shameful military "leaders" ...... Custer, Sherman, etc., England has as well. I will mention but one. Banastre Tarleton ....... the "Sherman" of the Revolution. Hard to forget him when you live where I do, adjacent to my sister state of South Carolina. He is remembered as "Bloody Ban", because he gave no quarter to those trying to surrender. Do the citizens of a nation have to bear some of the recrimination for their predecessor's failings? It's according to how one interprets the Scriptures, I guess.

http://www.revolutionarywararchives.org/tarleton.html

http://wp.patheos.com.s3.amazonaws.com/blogs/christiancrier/files/2014/06/Sins-of-the-Father.jpg

Until God's people get the "stomach" to do what needs to be done there will be no lasting peace. To quote John Roberts ..... "But it's got to get worse for that to happen, and it is going to get worse, a lot worse. JR".

God help us, I am afraid that is the truth.

SRH


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Originally Posted By: Bartlett
Lagopus.
As a UK passport holder thank you for your civilized response to this disgusting trumpery. My fault, for course for succumbing to reading the topic but sadly, another individual to ignore frown
Jeremy



You will be ignoring one of the finest English trained gunsmiths working in the new world. I consider Mr. Flynn's opinion on the going on in England to be very worthwhile reading.

Best,
Ted

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Originally Posted By: buzz
I'm pissed off re the terrorism too, but due process of the law is the only civilized way to handle these situations. It is costly, but what if the wrong guy was pulled out of a line up? Everyone is entitled to due process imho


The time is coming, and quickly, when you will not feel so generous.
JR


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Last Dollar #482172 06/04/17 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted By: Last Dollar
How many of the murdered people were the "Right" people?

Up to this point, I haven't seen any 'news' reports or other speculation that any of the murdered, surviving victims, or any of their extensive networks, were in the wrong in any way. I wonder, if truck and van rental companies were held liable, would their rental exclusions look coincidentally similar to just one community. At least until the next new trend of the month pops up.

James Flynn #482175 06/05/17 01:45 AM
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PCSO is a Police Community Support Officer. They are not trained policemen but act in communities to carry out routine work for which the trained police force has little time.

The three criminal losers responsible for this attack were all dead within eight minutes of the call received by the police that notified them of the incident. Several nationalities were caught up in the atrocity on Saturday night. The image of folk with their hands up is no more symbolic than seeing a number of innocent North American citizens lying face down after some kind of incedent, adopting that position because security forces need to bring order to chaos.

In the the U.K. we value our freedom as much as any decent civilised country. I don't come on to this site to discuss politics, or debate the arming of the police or citizens. I come to discuss and be informed about side by side sporting guns.

I'll stand by my country right or wrong. I have fought for my Queen and country against criminal terrorism on our own soil. I have lost friends and comrades, brothers in arms.

There is no surrender to this criminality here in the U.K. And writing that Europe is a sh1thole is disrespectful in the extreme, probably ignorant too, though I don't know the experience of the writer of that comment.

I am aware that others on here enjoy the give and take of commentary on world affairs, but I'd appeal for more considered remarks and a return to the broad subject of all our interest, fine sporting weapons.

Tim

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