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Originally Posted By: moses
Maybe you gotta wear your pants like that Tamid.
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Originally Posted By: Researcher
I would think most shooters would use their more open barrel at the 16-yard events and the tighter barrel at handicap events.

Nothing bothers me more then over-under skeet shooters, with skeet chokes in both barrels, that wear out one lock mechanism by loading one shell at a time for singles at stations one through seven!! Lost bird, delay of the squad!! mad


That one made me grin; you might could suggest they at least consider loading the other bbl. first, if they have a selector, on alternating boxes. Skeet, for me anymore is about shooting w/friends. Some of mine are intense and insanely good at it as well. Me(?), nacho much, not that I don't try to hit 'em all, I do. It simply doesn't work all the time and its not related to which bbl., even when choked the same, is utilized. Following that same thot pattern one might worry about the same thing happening on a two-triggered double on the rt. hand lock, regardless of its chokes. Perhaps it does, if used for skeet often enough. Never really thot about it before. Now I have one more thing to use as a distraction rather than looking at the target & just shooting it as I did before I knew better. blush grin

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Joke Tamid.
If you watched the vintage live bird & trap video you will see the 3/4 pants on them.
I don't think the pants help the shooting but they always make me smile.
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Originally Posted By: Tamid
I only ask the question because I took out my Remington F fully restored to shoot some trap the other day and had forgotten the choke measurements and wondered which barrel I should be using. It got me wondering if there was a 'proper' way to use it. It didn't seem to make a difference at 16 yds using 3 drams FF black powder and 1 1/8oz #8.

Based on grip alone, with the straight stock of the F Grade is there an advantage to using the rear or the front trigger first when shooting doubles?



You are shooting a Remington double trap with black powder?

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Moses,
I have't watched that video yet. Oh yes the jodhpurs. I haven't worn pair of those since I was a teenager trying to emulate the european telemark skiers.

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Yes I use Pyrodex Select FFg in all my vintage guns. But you seem surprised. Isn't that what was originally used?


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Bulk Smokeless powder was in widespread use after about 1895 in the U.S.; Dense Smokeless shortly thereafter.
Pressures of turn-of-the-century loads are here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1F2sQuPm05IE4VWYYnCkvuXmYEzQoWd_SQgaAfUOZEFU/preview

The Remington Model of 1894 Hammerless Grade “F.E.” Trap Gun was introduced in 1906 with decarbonized steel barrels; similar to Marlin “Special Rolled Steel” and Winchester “Rolled Steel”. Certainly no Live Bird or Inanimate Target competitor was using black powder in 1906.

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Trap doubles or singles?


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One more interesting factoid about those early trap shooters: Some of them shot 2 3/4" shells in short-chambered guns. (Would have been 2 5/8" if 12ga.) They found that they got better patterns. The theory was that those old paper cases, opening slightly into the forcing cone, gave the shot a bit of additional protection on its initial contact with the barrels.

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On SxS, recoil from the right barrel pulls the gun away from your face. The left barrel pushes the stock into your face, reducing in hiver felt recoil. That's why most guns which have different chokes have the right barrel more open.

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