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Are/were there any American mfg'd Self or Assisted Opening actions? I think so.

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So, who was the manufacturer of this gun?

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The WW 21 makes a small attempt and the RBL has that option. I bet there are others.

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you ever open a ruger red label....falls open like it was never meant to be closed..... wink


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John, interesting shotgun. Relatively high finish. Give us more info.

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The gun is a Crescent Triumph, mfg'd 1895-1898. It is written that fewer than 750 were produced. This one is #762. The Triumph was based on patents issued to William Beesley and held by Charles Lancaster.

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With the gun in the fired position, push top lever to the right. Barrels fall full open of their own weight. It sounds like the sears resetting on the hammers as it opens. Effort to close action is in the last third of closing and is not great as the main springs are compressed.


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I can now check off another of the early American SxS models on my list.

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Thank you for the education.....I had no idea.
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In early 1895 Crescent introduced its first hammerless double, the Triumph Hammerless, made in 12 gauge with either 30" or 32" Damascus or Twist barrels. The gun was based on patents issued to Frederick Beesley and controlled by Charles Lancaster and was the only boxlock hammerless double ever made by Crescent.
http://www.google.com/patents?id=vAxdAAA...p;q&f=false

They were made on order for Sears Roebuck & Co. and probably less than 750 were manufactured. It was listed in the Folsom catalog for $22 with Twist barrels, $25 with Damascus, and in the 1897 Sears catalog for $27.50
http://books.google.com/books?id=CSVIpqnFMTMC&pg=PA526&lpg

1898 Sears catalog No. 107 - https://archive.org/stream/consumersguideno00sear#page/354/mode/2up




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Interesting that the ad does not specifically state that it is self opening. However it beats around the point by saying that the gun opens and cocks easily.


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You'll have to explain a little further for me.
Anyone have the Lancaster self opening boxlock patent drawings available?

I can see the RBL w/ self opening option as an American made self opener.

My requirement would be that the gun need not be fired to spring open when laying on it's side. It sounds like this one does that.


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