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I cleaned it up, cant see anything. But I cleaned top rib as well and there is some sign of maker or retailer, need to cleaning out more, cant read it yet. Hopefully in the afternoon Ill find out more.
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........Left barrel is damascus 16/65 and right one is some 11,65mm - I slugged it, its 11,70/11,98mm, rim is .614, 15,59mm, base of the chamber .551, 14mm rifling starts at 65mm, lenght of the case cca 52mm. Some kind of shortened 450bpe(11,65x82r) Can you say when was it made by those marks, action, caliber? Barrels are 73cm long,..... You know, the diameter & length sounds like a 45-90 WCF but I have not checked the base or rim dimensions for comparision. Lep Pozdrav, Raimey rse
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Well, a neck downed, shortened version of the 50-110 WCF may have closer dimensions. Length of the 50-110 is given as 61mm and an overall length of 70mm. Other dims are quite close....
14mm Base
15.4mm Rim
The 50-110 WCF is given as a 13mm X 61R(mm). So something like a 45-110 or 11.6 X 52R, whatever that might be...
Serbus,
Raimey
rse
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50-110 Brass looks to be a buck & 1/4 a copy. So, if you could manage to get a few & trim them to length, neck them down of 11.7mm and fireform them, you just might have a solution.....
Lep Pozdrav,
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rse
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I had pondered on the 43 Egyptian or the 11X52R Beaumont M71/78(11.6mm) cartridge but the dims of those cartridges are not close?
Serbus,
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I cleaned the gun for more marks, nothing more on the barrels, at the top rib it was just damascus.
Thank you, that rifle caliber, i can put 45-70 brass in, its almost perfect at the rim, just fine, case in the chamber is a bit loose,.459 500gr powder coated bullet should work, I cant push it from the muzzle, its stucked half way in. I think would be possible fireform brass and use 459 or 462 governments bullets.
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To welder !
There is a book on Ferlach gunmakers ISBN 978-3-7084-0612-1 by Renate Jernej from 2018.
It has 3 pages on the family-saga of Peter Wernig. No info on any cartridge questions raised here.
If you can not get hold of the book I offer to send you a copy of the 3 pages .
If you let me know your name and address via the pm-feature I will mail it you or
if you want to stay anonymous to your next gundealer.
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Weidmannsheil
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