May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online Now
2 members (Express, Tim Wolf), 299 guests, and 7 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics38,506
Posts545,570
Members14,417
Most Online1,344
Apr 29th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 433
Likes: 42
Sidelock
**
OP Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 433
Likes: 42
I am trying to find out as much as I can about this 16 gauge gun for a friend. I know little more about it other than the barrels measure 29.5". Hopefully the stampings on the barrels and flats will be helpful. Thank you in advance for any information.








Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 182
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 182
No idea about Sicher, but proofed in Imperial Germany between 1891-1912. Krupp fluid steel barrels,both with original bores of 0.669" ~+/- 0.010"

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,081
Likes: 473
GLS Offline
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,081
Likes: 473
"Sicher" "For Sure" (Safe)

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,814
Likes: 194
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,814
Likes: 194
Sicher is safe. 75cm tubes mated to a Kerner-Anson platform. Is the word Nitro on the sides of the tubes? If not, probably made just prior to WWI. Looks like it experienced proof in the final state. I don't recognize the tube maker right off but I'll look. Any stamps on the receiver?

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,534
Likes: 169
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,534
Likes: 169


USAF RET 1971-95 [Linked Image from jpgbox.com]
Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 182
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Nov 2011
Posts: 182
Originally Posted By: GLS
"Sicher" "For Sure" (Safe)

I guess that might have been discerned from the location relative to the safety button. Duh!

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 644
Likes: 3
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 644
Likes: 3
I believe I can make out the nitro proof on the barrel just at the edge of the flat - unless that says something else. That's where the nitro stamp is on my older German guns.

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 433
Likes: 42
Sidelock
**
OP Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 433
Likes: 42
I asked for pictures of other stampings on the barrels, top rib, water table and this is what I got. Will it be possible to find out the maker, age, or much else?






Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,814
Likes: 194
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 10,814
Likes: 194
fallschirmjaeger has a proper monocle & was spot on regarding the Nitro stamp so that bounds it 1912-1923 - Suhl. Not sure on the maker but it reminds me of an August Schüler but I can't put my hands on an August Schüler catalogue at the moment.

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 644
Likes: 3
Sidelock
**
Offline
Sidelock
**

Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 644
Likes: 3
Raimey,

I know you most certainly have a much deeper understanding of the teutonic guns, but doesn't the "16/1" stamp on the flats indicate it was proofed in January 1916? That's what I had always read...

Page 1 of 2 1 2

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.086s Queries: 35 (0.065s) Memory: 0.8400 MB (Peak: 1.8989 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-07 08:41:49 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS