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Like Obamacare, the FREE healthcare that was so expensive no one could afford it.

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And that is what you have to tell them along with constant reminder that socialized medicine is of poor quality and no changes here are necessary. The downside is if the masses wake up one day it's going to be pretty ugly. I suspect next target of limits will be access to the internet. They are going to tell the masses it is needed to help control ISIS or other terrorist organizations they manage to invent to scare the populace. The fear of terrorism is a gift that is going to keep on giving.

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The masses? The founders of Google at one time couldn't pay their rent.

Maybe the 'masses' in your country but the masses in this country at least have a chance.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
....Open-mindedness and spirit of intelligent objective inquiry is dangerous to certain groups. The goal is to keep poor in the dark that way they will continue to vote against their own interests. If you enlighten them they will want affordable comprehensive healthcare, living wages, paid maternal leave,......That would seriously affect the bottom line of the top percentage earners of the population.

Intelligent, objective inquiry? When there's no value in reading or a basic education? Why do you always enlighten with vague emotional talking points and no facts? Nothing will make someone value a paycheck, and what it purchases, like having to work for it. What other freebies will enlighten on your vision of socialism?

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Anyone who thinks socialized medicine is a good thing, as with all things socialized, just check with the actual participants and see what they have to say, there is a reason Fang Rongxiang chose to have his open heart surgery done by a famed Utah heart surgeon instead of the Chinese doctors where he lived!

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Originally Posted By: treblig1958
Like Obamacare, the FREE healthcare that was so expensive no one could afford it.




If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free.

― P.J. O'Rourke


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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
The downside is if the masses wake up one day it's going to be pretty ugly.


The masses did wake up and voted for Trump to every elite's surprise.


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Great Read By Gasparino

Trump Crazy like a fox !

"On the economy, Trump has been crazy like a fox"

With the Dow crossing 25,000, its worth pointing out the pitfalls that could reverse some of those gains and how to avoid them.

One thing we dont have to worry about is the economic sanity of President Trump.

In fact, its safe to say that the current president, for all his temperamental flaws and petty insecurities, makes his tightly wound predecessor, Barack Obama, look like a raving madman when it comes to showing sense on economic growth. Armchair psychiatrists are having a field day diagnosing the presidents mental state from afar, especially after his increasingly bizarre tweeting, but the market says otherwise.

Consider: The United States had one of the highest corporate tax rates in the world so high that companies (and jobs) were fleeing to places like Ireland. Thats why it was perfectly sane to lower the corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 21 percent as Trump just did, and presto: Corporations are announcing plans to hire more workers, and the economy, which was expected to slow after seven years of weak growth, is heating up. The markets are predicting that growth with their surge.

Likewise, regulations have been strangling businesses for years while making it difficult for banks to lend to consumers and small business. Trump went out and hired perfectly sane regulators who basically pulled the federal governments boot off the neck of the business community.

It was described to me as a de facto tax cut by one business owner that gives him leeway to hire more people. A major win for the working class.

And since so many of my fellow journalists are at it, let me do a little psychoanalysis of what an economically insane person might do as president.

An insane president would threaten a significant tax increase immediately upon taking office following a financial crisis, and then eventually impose one on individuals and small businesses still in recovery.

Hed impose job-crushing regulations on these same businesses as unemployment rose. Hed put a cumbersome mandate on businesses that upends the entire health care system just as the economy was finally turning a corner.

A really insane president would blow nearly $1 trillion on a stimulus plan with little planning and direction, wasting much of the money on boondoggles (see: Solyndra) and then laugh at the lack of shovel ready jobs created. Hed then try to spread his delusion to the masses, telling them to ignore historically low wage growth, anemic economic growth and the massive amount of people who dropped out of the work force because the stock market rallied, thanks in large part to the Fed printing money instead of his own fiscal policies.

Is Barack Obama crazy? No, but his post-2008 economic policies were. Are all Trumps tweets sane? No, but smart investors with lots of skin in the game think his policies are perfectly rational, and thats why the markets are soaring along with the prospect of economic growth.

Can Trump just sit back and act like a clown for the rest of his presidency as the economy and markets lift all boats? No again. Relying on the markets or the economy to disguise abhorrent presidential behavior is a fools game. Corrections always occur, and will occur if corporate earnings dont match the investor enthusiasm built into Dows recent rise.

An unexpected burst of inflation that would force the Fed to raise interest rates could hurt both stocks and GDP. Trump might indulge his inner populist and engage in a trade war with China, or repeal NAFTA, both of which would undoubtedly hurt economic growth and stocks.


For all the good things about the business side of the tax reform bill, other parts are more complicated: Small businesses got a sliver of the tax breaks given to corporations; same goes for working-class people who dont pay much in federal income taxes in the first place. But people who do pay a lot may get crushed when tax season rolls around. Individuals in high-tax states (like New York) could get hammered because the plan barely lowers the top rate and plugs so many deductions.

To pay for their higher taxes, these people could curb their personal spending, meaning less economic growth and possibly lower stock prices.

But none of these hiccups suggest a madman is at the helm of the US economy, which is something to consider the next time you hear Donald Trump is crazy.

Charles Gasparino is a Fox Business senior correspondent


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I wonder if Warren Buffett is going to spread his 37 Billion in Tax savings around? Whatcha think?

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One can only hope. We will have to wait and see what happens.

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