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Thank you for defending me Brittany Man but jOe is just pissed at me for calling out his BS on another thread.

Your point about the left - or to be more precise, the establishment-left DNC - has been proven beyond a doubt on many occasions. They are interested in high-stakes emotional issues that feel good and drive people out of their homes to the polling places. They don't really care about people. Look at how they treated their most sincere base - Bernie Sanders voters - like trash when it was certain that Hillary would be a deal breaker for 5-10% of them.

If you know establishment Democrats on the inside, you will privately see them lament the difficulty in which they have mobilizing their base to polling places. Demographics aren't destiny, and the political map by no means makes the Democratic Party's "blue wave" inevitable. They tried that psychological technique when they asserted the existence of a fictitious "blue wall."

My experience with Canadian soldiers has always been good. I have no experience with Canadian politics nor am I interested.

Thanks Paradox for the perspective, along with your other comments. Definitely, I don't intend to drag you into anything, other than to note that non supporters show up, and I don't believe it's a waste of time to let them know that the path they choose will not be met with apathy.

Thank you. I'm sorry, for some reason I hit the quote button on the wrong text. But I agree, we need to stand up for our rights. There are a lot of powerful individuals in government who want to take them away and they will not stop at the Second Amendment. We are dealing with some malevolent individuals.

I seem to have struck a nerve with my observations about the deleterious and dangerous side effects of SSRI anti-depressants. However, these side-effects are well known, and even though they are rarely severe enough to cause a kid to go off the deep end with an AR-15 and kill his classmates, we know it does indeed happen. And while these isolated incidents grab all the headlines, many more kids are dying one at a time due to the epidemic of suicides that are often caused by these drugs. And when the depressed person commits suicide with a firearm, the blame is again directed at the availability of guns. The side effects of anti-depressants is rarely mentioned.

Some of the most informative testimonials about the side-effects of SSRI anti-depressants comes from actually talking with people who have used them. Since I became interested and naturally began talking about it with friends and co-workers, I am astounded at the number of people who feel they were given prescriptions incorrectly and inappropriately. And a good number have confided to me about their own suicidal thought or feelings of complete emptiness and inner rage while on them.

To be sure, there are other probable contributors, but guns of all kinds were readily available long before this mass shooting phenomena. Some people who look deeper than knee-jerk restrictions that wouldn't do a thing to stop demented killers who obviously passed background checks are recognizing other possible causes. Among those are the breakdown of strong families, and the removal of God, prayer, and the Ten Commandments from our schools. And once again, those societal sea-changes were driven by the same Liberal Left that now wants to place all of the blame on an inanimate object and a 230 year old Constitutional Right.

old colonel, you are absolutely correct that what I propose to save over 400 times as many teenager's lives as gun control is designed to make them understand that they are being manipulated and used. The vast majority of them will lose far more friends to auto or motorcycle accidents than to gun fire. But they wouldn't even consider Common Sense Driving Restrictions. Their raw emotions are being exploited in a manner that is causing them to voluntarily give up pieces of the freedom that made this country the envy of the world. The Left isn't about saving lives. If they were, they be concentrating upon bigger things like medical mistakes and the opioid epidemic instead of their incessant obsession with firearms.

Now we find out there was a cop/deputy there with a gun that was afraid to confront the shooter.

Most likely a liberal on Prozac...

He should face charges as stiff as manslaughter.

What facts do you believe exist that establish the elements of manslaughter? There are none.

Thomas Keller of the Peter Cartridge Co. committed suicide before any effective treatment for depression or bipolar disorder was available
https://books.google.com/books?id=sVEZAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA387&lpg

"Shell shock" came long before the diagnosis of PTSD

A bit of humility in presuming to understand or direct treatment for another person's struggles would be prudent.
The problem is inadequate evaluation and inappropriate treatment, for what is a life threatening illness.

Mental health is a tough issue, which I doubt could be clearly legislated. So, I suspect it would be regulated by folks with an agenda. It seems like most recent headline grabbing situations have behavior linked to suspected mental health issues, and that behavior could have easily flagged lawful purchase under current law if it wasn't for cracks to slip through.