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Steven, You are correct, the speculation on this forum does run rampant at times. Thanks for pointing out the issue, I will no longer speculate.

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Originally Posted By: Vall
Opinions are like you know what. Everyone has one. In my own opinion Xtrooper's stock work looks a bit better than the Milhoan on GB. They both have nice checkering, but the cheekpiece on the Milhoan is ugly to me, and Xtrooper's is nice.


Thanks, Vall.

I have to agree, particularly regarding that unconventional cheekpiece. To each his own, but that thing definitely doesn't work for me.


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I have to agree that there are some substantial differences, though I though the "petals" (in the checkering?) look fairly unusual, but similar. The nose of the comb looks the most different to me however.

I wonder however, wouldn't most stockers have several styles of cheekpieces and grips and so forth to offer? Many quality factory rifles could be had with different options that may or or may not include things like shadow lines for instance, depending on customer preference.

Also, just for my education is that Milhoen wearing a rather large opening bid price tag? I would think it might sell for half of what he is asking to open. Maybe I'm just ignorant (thus the question).


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Originally Posted By: Newton 1131
Steven, You are correct, the speculation on this forum does run rampant at times. Thanks for pointing out the issue, I will no longer speculate.


In any case, that is an interesting rifle you pointed out to me. I appreciate it because I would have never seen it nor known anything about Robert Milhoen who deserves recognition as one of America's great gunmakers of the past.


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
I have to agree that there are some substantial differences, though I though the "petals" (in the checkering?) look fairly unusual, but similar. The nose of the comb looks the most different to me however.

I wonder however, wouldn't most stockers have several styles of cheekpieces and grips and so forth to offer? Many quality factory rifles could be had with different options that may or or may not include things like shadow lines for instance, depending on customer preference.

Also, just for my education is that Milhoen wearing a rather large opening bid price tag? I would think it might sell for half of what he is asking to open. Maybe I'm just ignorant (thus the question).


I have absolutely no idea what the value of my rifle might be, but the price tag on the Milhoen rifle almost made me choke! laugh


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Thank you Xtrooper, That's that I thought about the Milhoen too. Yours is a much nicer rifle in my opinion.

I do wonder if they might have the same checkerer though.


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
Thank you Xtrooper, That's that I thought about the Milhoen too. Yours is a much nicer rifle in my opinion.

I do wonder if they might have the same checkerer though.


I really wish I could speak with my friend's recently departed father now and ask him about this rifle. I'm afraid its history is now irretrievably lost.


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Originally Posted By: BrentD
I have to agree that there are some substantial differences, though I though the "petals" (in the checkering?) look fairly unusual, but similar. The nose of the comb looks the most different to me however.

I wonder however, wouldn't most stockers have several styles of cheekpieces and grips and so forth to offer? Many quality factory rifles could be had with different options that may or or may not include things like shadow lines for instance, depending on customer preference.

Also, just for my education is that Milhoen wearing a rather large opening bid price tag? I would think it might sell for half of what he is asking to open. Maybe I'm just ignorant (thus the question).


I would think that's indeed possible. But when I look at certain maker's examples it seems they didn't stray much from a certain pattern they are known for. My guess is that if you went to a stock maker known for a certain style and he gave you something different, you wouldn't be too happy back then. Even today people seek out gunsmiths known for a certain style, and wont be happy if they don't get it.

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Originally Posted By: Newton 1131
Steven, You are correct, the speculation on this forum does run rampant at times. Thanks for pointing out the issue, I will no longer speculate.


It is great to show similarities, new or previously under-exposed makers and any vintage gun that can be accurately attributed to a specific maker. I'm just not a fan of jumping to conclusion from an individual example.

The info on Milhoen from Sharps book is certainly relevant and enlightening.

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Steven I agree with you 100%. I had to wait to post this. Ebay/312066975012
Here is a perfect example. I think this stock has enough similarities that this forum can put a maker to it. Dan:

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