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Hey, Bob, could you post that photo of the 21s all lined up again? You haven't posted it lately .............well, you did, but you deleted it.

We're forgetting what 21s look like. And, I know how good it would make you feel to show them again.

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Originally Posted By: Bob Cash
I'm pretty sure Winchester New Haven only made about 130 sets of 30" 20 gauge barrels.


Bob. Of the estimated 130 sets of 20 Gauge 30 " barrels 0n 21 winchesters, how many 30 Inch barrels do you think were made in factory 3 Inch chambers??? I know that Winchester New Haven started to advertise 3 inch 20 guns in 1953. So that makes for a fairly short run.

Yes, we shoot 21 Winchesters and no issues. We do not own any of Tonys guns so have nothing to comment on them. They sure do look good to this old fellow though. I remember over 60 years ago when I was in high school, the ugly girls always used to poke fun at the really shinny girls. Some things never change.

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I do not hunt and hardly ever get to a trap club

For me, because of the history, it's fun to own and occasionally shoot my original condition early, 12 gauge, standard grade Model 21. I have no interest in, or use for, a CSMC.

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Good evening long range
I'd only be guessing but I'd bet fewer rather than more.
I don't believe the 3" chambered 20 gauge was limited to just 30" barrels. Perhaps some of the experts crazy will weigh in.

I can account for 2.
Here's a 1947 2 barrel set with 30" "Magnum" barrels.

Hey Stan, is it OK if I show a picture?

The original owner was a young woman when her father took her to A & F in New York and bought her this set.
She and her father hunted Quail and Duck





Here's a second, 30" Full and Full, 3" factory chambers.

Another couple of pictures, Is that OK with you Stan?





When I acquired this one it didn't shoot straight.
Strip and re lay the barrels, restock and restore.
It was in badly need but what a gun now.

Interestingly enough, long barrels and 3" chambers are just 2 of the features available on a New Britain (CSMC) Model 21.






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Bob Cash wrote ...

Interestingly enough, long barrels and 3" chambers are just 2 of the features available on a New Britain (CSMC) Model 21.

Yes, besides custom engraving, I also ordered a skeleton butt plate, double triggers and a slim beavertail.

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You made my day, Bob. I have something to daydream about.

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I’ve got one too, Bob. Mine is a 20 ga graded gun, 2-barrel set, one barrel is 28” sk-1, sk-2 and 2 nd barrel is 30” F/F with 3” chambers. Are you sure they are that rare since I have one and you have TWO? Seem common here.


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Originally Posted By: SxS Only

...Yes, besides custom engraving, I also ordered a skeleton butt plate, double triggers and a slim beavertail.SxS Only


Sorry for the dark image (and apologies to Stan for yet even more pictures.)
A skeletal butt and slim "Hession" forends were two great features I also chose.

Did you say Custom engraving ?






Buzz,
According to Schwing, 3" chambers were available from 1932 to 1949 in 12, 16 and 20.
1950 to 1955, 12 gauge only.
1955 and later, once again available in 12 and 20.
Rare on 30" 20 gauges, maybe not. Scarce, maybe.

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Bob, you might quit trying to justify your 21 obsession long enough to notice that Stan was referring to that same time-worn picture of the the 21's-on-astroturf photo. He tried to pay you a compliment on finally posting something different. Guess you were too busy with the font/colored text feature to notice.

Your crazy 21 expert,
John Roberts

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No real need to justify anything to you.
However perhaps you could please explain what you meant when you made this moronic statement...
Originally Posted By: John Roberts
Bob, please note I said "shooting to any extent". If you only put 100 or so rounds a year through one, you're probably ok. But thousands, not so much


Does your mouth often just flop open and dumbass crap just spills out of it?
Do you have any information based in fact that might support the imbicylic claims that you made?
Hmmmm?

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