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SXS 40 #509460 03/23/18 11:08 PM
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Prices realized are posted.

Ken

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Originally Posted By: moses
Buy it because it is a nice shooter & then use it to shoot.
Too many collectors in this world ruin the experience for others by collecting for investment.
That is in any field.
I know a bloke with 50 anvils & he does no blacksmithing.
I also know young fella's who use a piece of railway track as an anvil.
I know a man with 600 guns & he never shoots any.
Collector prices were always gonna fall on their butt.
Artificial inflation.
O.M


II'm confused what is your piont?


Nothing is foolproof to a sufficiently talented fool.
SXS 40 #509467 03/24/18 02:40 AM
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Just a rant.
My point being that IMHO the prices are too high anyhow. Weak prices on English guns was a point in the discussion.
I have English guns to shoot with them. What they were actually made for.

High prices I feel have been driven by collectors who in some cases have 600 guns & shoot none. When such a collection comes on the market it sorts out what is a real price & what is not.

Maybe what is thought of as low prices is just becoming somewhat affordable to a man who wants to shoot the gun & that is my point.
O.M

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Understanding global sporting arms market also helps. England for rifle and shotgun H&H, Purdey rifles Westley Richards, John Rigby, France shotguns Georges Granger rifles?, Belgium for rifles and shotguns Lebeau Courally, Shotguns custom grade Browning FN, Italy shotguns & rifles Beretta custom shop, shotguns Perazzi,......New versions or even order ones in very good shape will bring in money. Obviously buying something of quality with less or little known name will bring a lot less on resale.

Interestingly a piece does not have to come from company steeped in long history and tradition. Couple of examples would be Hartmann & Weiss or Peter Hofer. That is because the wealthy willing to spend a lot know what they are buying.

If you want something that resembles Holland & Holland Dominion from a distance and not pay a lot try Charles Lancaster's SLE from 1890 patent. Interesting gun but if you hope to profit in the future sale you ain't because not even Englishmen will settle for a 'Wristbraker'. Now with Kent of West Virginia coming out with 12ga 3/4oz 2.5" 1200fps load I think a 'Wristbreaker' would be wonderful choice for an American fellow, yes? smirk

I don't know much about antique tools but I suspect something from Parker Bros. or Winchester would make gun guy reach for wallet a lot faster than antique Stanley though Stanley may be just as good or even better.

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The English double rifles brought strong prices at Julias.

I didnt watch any scatterguns. If their prices are down now is the best time to buy.

Curl

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Palunc, can you tell us where the pair of 10 gauge Woodwards are or were offered? Thanks.

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Sorry, if I said 10 gauge. It was the pair of Woodward 20 gauge O/U. First ones made by Purdey after they bought Woodward.
The prices reflected are including "Buyer's premium".
There were some nice deals bought there.
I also was looking at the three Winchester 21 round body guns.
If they had been offered on a dealer's site they would have been North of 10K. They sold well under that.
A nice Hussey long heavy choked barrels sold for 6K.
Cheap


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I'm suprised at the prices on the Boss self openers. Was one of them out of proof?

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Jagermeister, that's an interesting assessment of the double-gun market as you see it. Unfortunately, it should mean little or nothing to anyone here, because most of us realize that you don't even own any doubles, and that you are nothing but an internet fake who simply regurgitates what he reads elsewhere.

I'm surprised to see you admit that you know nothing about tools made by Winchester or Parker. I'd have expected you to pretend you were an expert on them too. You should stick to things you really are an expert on, such as your toy stuffed animal collection and eating kishkas.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: keith
Jagermeister, that's an interesting assessment of the double-gun market as you see it. Unfortunately, it should mean little or nothing to anyone here, because most of us realize that you don't even own any doubles, and that you are nothing but an internet fake who simply regurgitates what he reads elsewhere.

I'm surprised to see you admit that you know nothing about tools made by Winchester or Parker. I'd have expected you to pretend you were an expert on them too. You should stick to things you really are an expert on, such as your toy stuffed animal collection and eating kishkas.




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