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Yep!! After looking at it several other times and comparing the stock to all the other gun dimensions I finally reached the conclusion that it was merely an optical illusion caused by the additional length of the case. Thanks though for the clarification.

At 14 1/4� LOP, they made theJapanese made Browning SLE too short for double trigger guns from the get go.

That statement 'sorta ssumes everyone has the same LOP requirements. As people age, it is typical for their LOP requirement to decrease, and their cast requirement to increase. I'm not getting younger.

I do know for fact that when I have a Tshirt, wool Pendleton shirt, and an insulated hunting coat on at 15 degrees, say, on December 28th, a LOP that is perfect in July, isn't.

I can make due with the LOP as it is, and use it year round.

It is interesting, eye opening, actually, following what George Hoenig, James Flynn, Abe Chaber, Kirk Merrington, and others, think of this series of guns.

Best,
Ted

I had a pleasant, if sweaty, few hours at the range with the gun today. I patterned it about 6 rounds through each tube, and it seems to shoot right about where I am looking. I'd call the patterns about 60/40, right where I like 'em, and say the chokes, about .009 and .020 probably throw a little tighter than I expected. Bores are right on .729, none of this backbore stuff, and I used Federal 1 oz loads of 8s for that, and a round of skeet, shot low gun. Not a great round, but, I expect I will improve. I always have to work up with a new gun. It was unpleasantly hot and humid, and I called off the war after 1 round, had a lemonaid with my son in the air conditioned clubhouse, then went home and had a beer while cleaning it up. I doubt I'll feed it anything too hot, it is a light gun, perhaps later in pheasant season a few big numbers, but, 1 oz patterns so sweetly it hardly seems worth it.
Very happy so far.

Many thanks, Geo.

Best,
Ted

Its pretty obvious to the casual observer that Browning just sort of by reflex (rather than really thinking it through) made their DT SLE 14 1/4� LOP since the majority of their hunting guns with single triggers had 14 1/4� LOP, such as the Browning Superposed guns. I don�t think they considered DT guns usually require about 1/2� more in LOP than a ST gun. So, this DT gun with 14 1/4� would approximately equate to a ST gun LOP of 13 3/4�.......that�s pretty short. I shoot DT guns with 15� LOP, so even if I were clothed for hunting in the next Ice Age, 14 1/4� LOP would be pretty short and next to worthless for me in a DT gun. I think Browning would have accommodated more people by making the stocks a bit longer for the SLE Japanese guns. Just my humble opinion though. Nice guns overall. Glad you are happy, Ted.

Ted,
I'm happy to see that you have your BSS-SL. Although I usually take a longer length of pull, I shoot both my 20 and 12 ga. BSS-SL's really well. I suppose that I get the job done by simply crawling the stock, but it works well for me.
Congratulations on your gun, they really were Browning best's as the DGJ article referred to them.
Karl

Ted,
I just looked through one of my older Browning catalogs from the 80's, and it shows a BSS-SL in a Browning traditional dark brown case. The case product number is listed as #2015, specific to Browning's SxS's.
Karl

B.C. Miroku SLE SxS guns are not easy to find. A 14&1/4" LOP would fit average Asian shooter pretty well. I suspect what B.C. Miroku did is just stamp Browning name and address on them tubes and send the guns into USA. I'm surprised Browning imported SxS game guns in late 70s and early 80s because at that time hardly anyone used them. They must have sold as well as milk or bread past their "best if used by date".

I've seen them in that case, and seen them in the Airways case. I believe few Americans actually bought a case for their Browning SXS guns, boxlock or sidelock, and the few that did were at the mercy of what Mr. Dealer had in stock.
The Airways case had been in production for about a decade, for the BSS boxlocks, when the sidelock came out. It had been available for other Browning guns for a lot longer.
I suspect as far as Browning cases go, it was the easier of the two to find.

I will need to practice with the gun, it isn't magic, but, it is doing it's part, according to the paper I shot on Saturday.

Enjoy your BSS sidelocks, Karl. Mine seems to be a stout, but, light gun, that will handle 1oz loads most of the time, and bigger numbers here and there.

Best,
Ted

Ted,
I shoot 1 oz. loads to good effect in mine at 1175 fps. using Estate SS target loads. For hunting I like the RST 1 oz. loads in 7's and 5's. I've used mine for nearly 12 years and wouldn't part with them, and I hope in time you will feel the same.
Karl