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#521722 08/28/18 11:01 PM
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I can't figure out how the extractor on my Lefever H is supposed to stay secured in place on the barrels. If I'm not careful when I pull out the empty shells I lift the extractor rod completely free of the barrels. Wondering if something has been removed in the past.









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There should be a tiny machine screw in the back end of the slot in which the back end of the extractor rides. Its head acts like a bumper to keep the extractor moving too far back when barrels are off the gun. I doubt it could work itself out and I've even seen those that had to be drilled out. Some one must have removed it. Sorry, I don't know the thread size.

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Nope. Picture No.1 clearly shows that slot and extractor retaining screw is not present on this apparently very early H grade. And it isn't missing either. Later guns had that feature, but not this one. I am surprised to see this feature on an H grade, and assumed it was gone by the time the H grade was introduced.


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This is a new one on me. The "Slot" that NE mentioned is machined into the bottom of the rib extension, from the pictures it is not present on this gun. Likewise the top of the extractor is flat, it does not have the projection that fits in the slot. As the top projection riding in the slot prevents the extractor from Rocking none of mine have the guide pin above the extractor stem. I cannot recall having ever seen a Lefever extractor set up this way, but obviously this one was.

As NE said this type has either just a screw in the slot or in most cases a T shaped block set in. In this case a cross cut is milled across the bottom of the rib extension & the narrow end of the T fills the slot to the back of the extension & the wide part fills the cross cut. The extractor is thus stopped by the top projection bumping into either the screw head or the block.


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Some earlier guns also had the slot in the rib extension for the projection on the extractor to ride in to keep it from rotating, but didn't have the stop screw. Obviously, that version didn't need the guide pin. Another example of Dan Lefever constantly tinkering with his designs.

Solution: Be careful you don't lose your extractor... especially when you remove the barrels from the gun!


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Keith;
Yes, I have an early 10 gauge Lefever side pivot with rod cocking which does not have the stop screw or block. The extractor on that one will not however simply fall out. You have to actually spring the stem a bit to remove it, was made that way intentionally. This was though close to 10 years prior to the H grade being introduced.


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Miller, it would be interesting to know the serial numbers on the barrels of this H grade, and whether they are original to the gun. I have several Lefevers with extractors that will just fall out, including at least one with the guide pin. But none of them require any flexing of the extractor to get it to come past any sort of stop.

I learned about this during some moments of panic when I didn't notice that the extractor fell out of an early pivot lever gun while cleaning it, and it bounced under my workbench.


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Agreed on Keith's correction. After reading his reply I expanded pic #1 on my desktop and I don't see the guide slot or the hole for the bumper screw. This is a new one on me.

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There are some extractors on two hook and early large hook guns that are not retained with a screw as in the later guns. If pulled hard enough, they can come right out. they are held in by tension from a small spring inside the barrel lug.
Now... there is even some variations of this design. I have observed guns as close as 50 numbers that had different extractor operations and retention designs.
A Pain... I know.


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Couldn't a small screw be installed behind the barrel lump and cut a shallow notch in the extractor rod for the screw to ride in and act as a stop?


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