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Canada's federal government is "studying" ban in cities of handguns and assault rifles. Canada's police chiefs are doing the same. The 30,000-member Canadian Shooting Sports Association has protested with a letter to Ottawa. Toronto and Montreal support the ban in their cities.

There has been no organized national protest as the one that ended the long gun registry. The gun club of which I'm a member was the loudest voice in the province last time. There's little interest now. I have no explanation for it. I'm working up letters to our provincial Members of Parliament but why we're not at the barricades everywhere is a mystery to me.

No pushback, fait accompli.

Discrimination based on where you live. Why would it be acceptable to ban a gun on one side of the street, inside a city, but not ban it on the other side which is outside the city? This is just an incremental total ban in its early stages. All for the children.

In the US we are slowly recognizing we have a major mental health issue which is out of control. The ACLU forced the stoppage of long term commitment of people with mental illnesses. Now they get dumped out and live on the streets or fend for a themselves . Worse with patient confidentiality it�s hard to report those who should be in institutions, under close care and who should not be allowed to own firearms. So the answer some want us to follow is turn in our guns instead of getting a grip on mental health issues and safe care for those who need it. The answer is as insane as the problem.

Well that sucks, King. But at least milk should be getting a lot cheaper soon and hockey season is only a month away.

This has the potential to be an interesting thread. Don�t let me down, keith.

To paraphrase the late, great John McCain...


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KY Jon,

Your point is well stated. But I wonder if the problem is less about mental illness (which has always been with us), and more about PHARMACOLOGY.

We have an epidemic of over-prescription of [bizarrely] legal drug, for all manner of issues, whether those "issues" be real, exagerrated or imagined.

If every time somebody said they were "depressed" they were told to stop eating processed complex carbohydrates, go to bed earlier, and start walking...rather than be "prescribed" something...99% of most ills could be fixed.

The common thread with each of these shootings the gun-grabbers keep breathlessly reporting on is:

A) 18-25 yr old male
B) prescription drugs
C) history of mental health issues
D) social isolation by way of an unhealthy fixation on video games and "social media"

If stupid parents would throw away the video game player and processed food, and then take a kid hiking and show him how to use a fishing rod and build a fire, throw a damn ball...boys would get the building blocks to being men.

Instead, they're just boys that got older. And they're directionless, and weird, and socially awkward.

We're not going to abandon the 2nd Amendment because these 'man-boys' keep blowing a gasket. I feel for them. It's their parents who deserve to be flogged.

- Nudge

Damn I like that, Nudge. Very, very well-stated. Thank you!
JHR

It�s more than just simple Pharm. mental I�ll people just won�t take their drugs if left unsupervised.

The drugs which work well for 10-20 years olds tend to be less effective after that. Your brain chemistry changes so their effect tends to feminism. Another real problem is generics which are not true copies of the original drugs. Insurance companies want you to only use the far cheaper generics rather than the more expensive and often more effective original drugs. Genetics are not. Linical trsted to prove they are 100% as effective as the real drug. They just have to do most of the same things. So by the time a kid who was getting decent medical care at 15 hits 25-30 his meds no longer work, or the generics don�t work very well if at all, he�s never learned how to cope without them and life sucks. Answer play video games to warp your World even more.

Parents need to grow up. Stop being your kids drinking buddy. Stop being their best friend. If you kids best friend is you and you theirs that means you have failed to develop them to fit into society. I just want to kick some stuff arents right in the azz.

And a guy just killed people in Florida and then himself because he lost in a videogame tournament! Some kind of shootemup war video as most of them are?

There is far more to it than that A-D list. I seriously doubt that the percentage of disturbed people in the population has changed in any significant way. But a minuscule portion of them now have the capability to become highly visible. Video games are a drop in the bucket in light of the pervasive and glorified violence in our society. A total lack of respect for fellow citizens, not to mention fellow humans, is obvious at every level and in every aspect of our society giving example, support, and encouragement to anyone deranged enough feel in need of striking back at whatever they identify as hostile.
The Anti's seize on that to vilify a mechanical contrivance that aids the nutters. Big surprise! The government and leading gun owner organizations (the paragons of paranoia) refuse to act in any problem solving manner. Big Surprise! Some sort of FUNDED response to the situation would certainly be welcome but is unlikely since there is not a politician alive that wants anyone to have a firearm and letting the situation persist is a simple way to ultimately achieve that.
Violence is institutional in current society. Removing the firearms will not solve that. It may lower the body count by shootings but that is such a tiny number that the only impact will be different focus on the news.

BTW - the mentally ill who were/are tossed on the street are there because POLITICIANS are encouraged to not fund social programs - - which is what the former mental health facilities were. California under Reagan, or maybe it was Nancy's astrologer, was first among many to see to that de-funding.

Canada has no second amendment and no NRA. Gun control was already a "Done Deal" there. Majority rules you know...Geo

Funny how Canada was so quickly forgotten.

Wings or Les Kwee-beckers in the cellar this year?


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