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Dont forget the Oxford/Cambridge spy ring and their Fellow Travelers in the Ivy League and US State Dept. The original denizens of the Swamp.

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During my long tenure in our nation's capital the saying was that to work at State Department one needed to have an Ivy League education and then turn left.

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Johnny Cash was a USAF continuous wave (Morse code) radio intercept operator who specialized in Russian radio traffic. He was the first Westerner to learn of Stalin's death.

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I meant really why didn't stalin try in the immediate aftermath of ww2, instead of stopping at Berlin, keep going until he hit the west coast of France. I would imagine it was in his head to do so. There was an interview with a British army officer who was in berlin in the end of the war, he said the Russians were obviously the next enemy by their behaviour and demeanour, openly aggressive.

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Red Army was bled white, conducting the biggest aerial, armoured, infantry battles of the war, and US had the bomb.

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Johnny Cash was a USAF continuous wave (Morse code) radio intercept operator who specialized in Russian radio traffic. He was the first Westerner to learn of Stalin's death.


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There were a lot of things going on post WWII in Europe. The lights were winking out. The governments of Eastern European countries "liberated" by Moscow were being overturned and tyrants put in place - Rakosi in Hungary, etc. But it was not an immediate process it wasn't until George Kennan wrote the "Long Telegram" from the US Consulate in Kiev in 1946 which laid out the essence of Stalin and the Soviet system that the US mobilized. It was the origin of the Clifford-Elsey Report and was published as the "X article" in "Foreign Affairs" in Jan 1947. It and the Clifford-Elsey Report became the basis for the US policy of containment and of the Marshall Plan. Churchill knew Stalin..but I will give Truman this - he recognized Stalin's nature - FDR never did - and he acted (even while virtually disbanding the military) That Long Telegram is worth reading...
https://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/coldwar/documents/pdf/6-6.pdf

As for Beria....here is some stuff....a man for all nightmares...and his famous saying "Show me the man, I'll show you the crime," could in some ways fit into the philosophy of a certain American prosecutor today,

Lavrenti Pavlovich Beria was a Georgian, like Stalin, who called him my Himmler. Involved in revolutionary activities from his teens and head of the secret police in Georgia in his twenties, he supervised the ruthless 1930s purges in the region and arrived in Moscow in 1938 as deputy to Nikolai Yezhov, the blood-thirsty dwarf, head of the Soviet secret police. He soon succeeded Yezhov, who was shot on Stalins orders, apparently at Berias prompting. Beria, who went on to run the Soviet network of slave-labour camps, was notorious for his sadistic enjoyment of torture and his taste for beating and raping women and violating young girls. Bald and bespectacled, by the time of Stalins death in 1953 he was one of the most hated men in the country.

With Stalin gone, Beria quickly came to an understanding with Georgi Malenkov, an old ally, and was given the combined ministries of State Security and Internal Affairs, which put him in control of both the secret and the regular police as well as a small private army of infantry divisions. He now improbably began to urge an easing of Stalinism that went further than his colleagues were ready for. Many of them feared him almost as much as they had feared Stalin himself and a lethal plot was hatched against him.

Accounts of what happened vary considerably, but it seems that Berias downfall was engineered by Nikita Khrushchev, secretary to the Party Central Committee, who quietly secured the support of other powerful figures, including Malenkov and a number of generals. On June 26th, apparently, at a hastily convened meeting of the Presidium, Khrushchev launched a blistering attack on Beria, accusing him of being a cynical careerist, long in the pay of British intelligence, and no true Communist believer. Beria was taken aback and said, Whats going on, Nikita?, and Khrushchev told him he would soon find out. The veteran Molotov and others chimed in against Beria and Khrushchev put a motion for his instant dismissal. Before a vote could be taken, the panicky Malenkov pressed a button on his desk as the pre-arranged signal to Marshal Zhukov and a group of armed officers in a nearby room. They immediately burst in, seized Beria and manhandled him away.

Berias men were guarding the Kremlin, so the officers had to wait until nightfall before smuggling him out in the back of a car. He was taken first to the Lefortovo Prison and subsequently to the headquarters of General Moskalenko, commander of Moscow District Air Defence, where he was imprisoned in an underground bunker. His arrest was kept as quiet as possible while his principal lieutenants were rounded up some were rumoured to have been shot out of hand and regular troops were moved into Moscow.

The Central Committee spent five days convincing itself of Berias guilt and R.A. Rudenko, an experienced prosecutor well known to Khrushchev, was appointed to make certain that the police chief was expeditiously tried, condemned and executed with the maximum appearance of legality. Pravda announced Berias fall on July 10th, crediting it to the initiative of Comrade Malenkov and referring to Berias criminal activities against the Party and the State. On December 17th, Rudenkos office announced that Beria and six accomplices, encouraged by foreign intelligence agencies, had been conspiring for many years to seize power in the Soviet Union in order to restore capitalism. A special tribunal was set up. The accused were allowed no representation and no appeal. When the death sentence was passed, according to General Moskalenko, Beria fell to the floor and begged on his knees for mercy. It was not a quality he had shown to others, and it was not now shown to him. He and his confederates were taken away and promptly shot. His wife and son were sent to a Siberian labour camp.

Beria was 54, if it was really him. Alternative versions have him shot or strangled months before, with a double standing trial in December. Berias son Sergo believed this and says he was told of his fathers death on June 26th. Presumably the point would have been to make certain of the sinister police chiefs demise, while putting a varnish of legality on it later on. It may have happened that way, but it seems unlikely.

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I did. Didnt know Johnny was a 2621/CTr which makes him even cooler.

Just dont think that kind of traffic was sent in the clear and even if it was Im guessing he didnt know Russian.

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I guess more accurate to say that he copied the transmission. 73 de NN4CW

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