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Stan;
Yes, there truly is no "Standard". What I was referring to was a straight, non ventilated or elevated rib. It could be either flat or concave in cross-section & either solid or hollow. One of these will be found on the vast majority of Field & Marsh doubles, so that was my meaning of the word standard.
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No doubt, that is a gorgeous shotgun and Perazzi, of which I have owned a couple, is an outstanding maker. But Im not sure I see the point in it. It reminds me of the in-line muzzleloaders with stainless steel barrels, plastic stocks and a scope. When I compete, I have a dedicated shotgun for it. When Im shooting side by sides, Im doing it for the tradition, a connection to the past.
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Perazzi also will make the DC 12 with a straight grip, open Purdey grip, or a Woodward style grip. And you can even get double triggers and automatic safety.
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No doubt, that is a gorgeous shotgun and Perazzi, of which I have owned a couple, is an outstanding maker. But Im not sure I see the point in it. It reminds me of the in-line muzzleloaders with stainless steel barrels, plastic stocks and a scope. When I compete, I have a dedicated shotgun for it. When Im shooting side by sides, Im doing it for the tradition, a connection to the past. The point is, the original poster has a high quality competition shotgun, simple as that. That gun is not made for beating the brush, its a pure competition tool and a very fine one at that. There are btw, dedicated SxS competition shoots now.
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There was a Perazzi SxS that floated between owners in and around Mississippi...
I think I recall seeing it a Thad Scotts it had a pretty bad reputation mechanical wise I heard tell. I remember those guns. I think they were designated as the DC1. Those were game guns, not made for target duty. JR
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Actually, the DC1 and the DC12 are nearly identical with the exception of the trigger groups. Both guns have the same dual barrel hooks and rear locking lugs. I had the opportunity recently to look closely at a DC1 made in 1966 and compare it to my DC12. I did not know what I was looking at as the seller had IDd it as a DC12. I sent pictures to Giacomo and he confirmed that the design of the two guns was basically the same with the exception of the triggers. The DC12 trigger group is based on the MX8, but is not identical because the hammers are slightly different owing to the SxS vs OU configuration. The DC1 predates the MX series since it came out in 1964 and was discontinued in 1972. This was confirmed in Carl Lippards book. Perazzi made 284 DC1s if my memory is correct. The DC1 I looked at has a slightly swamped game rib, but sported a target buttstock and BT forend. I assumed these were not original to the gun. The gun came up nicely but has short barrels, choked .18/.24.
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One other thing: the trigger group on the DC1 is not removable.
Edit: the poster below from Texas is correct about the DC1 trigger group. Some were removable and some were not. The one I recently examined was the 84th DC1 made. Its trigger group is not removable. Sorry for the confusion. Ed
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Well.......not wanting to wade into something I should leave alone.
But it is raining out my afternoon Dove shoot and I'm killing time at the computer....
I'll risk contributing my first hand knowledge of the earlier run of these guns. This is not in any way meant to contradict the Gentleman from Virginia posting above. Just simply my personal experience.....
While some of the very first SxS Perazzi guns were fixed trigger , a Large number of the @ 280+ had the detachable trigger group....
I had one during the 80's and early 90's. A well known American flyer shot, who spent considerable time on the Continent acquired mine from a French Count in the late 70's. The trigger group was very similar to the MX series guns but used hammers that were much lower, and the springs were V style , but not totally interchangeable with the O/U springs of the time.....I shot mine seriously at pigeons for a little over a year , both here, and abroad.
I handled and shot several others that belonged to friends and fellow competitors. The (then) young French shot,Guy Belensi used his to win the European Championship at Pigeons in the early 80's. The stately white haired Benito Pardini of Italy shot a similar piece as well (he was the uncle of Bruno Pardini , then Europe's most prolific winner). His gun as well had a removable trigger group.....
American Flyer and International Trap Champ, Francis Eisenlauer, of California shot one of the detachable trigger guns both here and abroad.
I sold mine to a flyer shooter originally from Pennsylvania, then living in Montana in the late 90's. I have not seen him nor the gun since....
More recently,I handled one of the original older ones owned by Cyril Adams that he traveled back to Italy with seeking to have Mauro re-barrel it with tubes more to his liking.....
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Well.......not wanting to wade into something I should leave alone.
But it is raining out my afternoon Dove shoot and I'm killing time at the computer....
I'll risk contributing my first hand knowledge of the earlier run of these guns. This is not in any way meant to contradict the Gentleman from Virginia posting above. Just simply my personal experience.....
While some of the very first SxS Perazzi guns were fixed trigger , a Large number of the @ 280+ had the detachable trigger group....
I had one during the 80's and early 90's. A well known American flyer shot, who spent considerable time on the Continent acquired mine from a French Count in the late 70's. The trigger group was very similar to the MX series guns but used hammers that were much lower, and the springs were V style , but not totally interchangeable with the O/U springs of the time.....I shot mine seriously at pigeons for a little over a year , both here, and abroad.
I handled and shot several others that belonged to friends and fellow competitors. The (then) young French shot,Guy Belensi used his to win the European Championship at Pigeons in the early 80's. The stately white haired Benito Pardini of Italy shot a similar piece as well (he was the uncle of Bruno Pardini , then Europe's most prolific winner). His gun as well had a removable trigger group.....
American Flyer and International Trap Champ, Francis Eisenlauer, of California shot one of the detachable trigger guns both here and abroad.
I sold mine to a flyer shooter originally from Pennsylvania, then living in Montana in the late 90's. I have not seen him nor the gun since....
More recently,I handled one of the original older ones owned by Cyril Adams that he traveled back to Italy with seeking to have Mauro re-barrel it with tubes more to his liking..... Good to see your Perazzi SXS worked so well and got the job done. I used my Perazzi DC12 today during a main event and won my class with it. I believe I had the only SXS on the course, everyone else used O/Us. Such a great SXS with no felt recoil. I could see how it could be a great pigeon gun with 1-1/4oz loads.
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