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Someday, hopefully years from now, I may want to be able to assure a potential buyer that my Winchester Model 21 is factory original. To me it seems that it is, exhibiting what appears to care use over the years --but what do I know. Serial No. 16XX is not in the Cody records. 12 gauge, M/F, extractor
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Guys that know 21s will know even without Cody records. Thats an old one, extractor gun, Im not surprised theres no letter. No worries there. Anyway, its the graded guns that one really needs to worry about in terms of originality, such as the engraved guns. A Cody letter is important on those guns, not so much on the standard grades. Even then, there are supposedly some phony records even at Cody that have been slipped in on a few high grade, later serial numbered guns (that are not true Winchester produced guns), or so rumor has it.


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Guys that know Winchesters are dying off. There are a smaller number of younger guys who benefited from them.

Mostly, the auction houses do their best. More than ever, this is the substantive advantage they provide buyers. Chain of possession/provenance helps alot.

As mentioned, tough with non-graded stuff.

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Extractor, Two Triggers & splinter forend. Not likely it has tampered with.
Not much of a 21 fan, but likely one of the few, who if I ever did acquire one would actually prefer that configuration, except for perhaps ejectors.


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Nice gun. Nice wood, scarce forend, double triggers and Win Butt plate (I'm assuming) are all a plus.
I wouldn't worry too much about convincing a potential buyer that your gun is factory original.
I think the bigger challenge is going to be to convince a potential buyer that he wants an old 12 gauge SxS.

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Originally Posted By: Bob Cash
Nice gun. Nice wood, scarce forend, double triggers and Win Butt plate (I'm assuming) are all a plus.
I wouldn't worry too much about convincing a potential buyer that your gun is factory original.
I think the bigger challenge is going to be to convince a potential buyer that he wants an old 12 gauge SxS.



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Not much of a 21 fan, but likely one of the few, who if I ever did acquire one would actually prefer that configuration, except for perhaps ejectors.


You and me both, Miller ..................on all counts.

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Just shoot it, be a good caretaker, custodian, for it and let your heirs worry about it. Guns a terrible investments in all but the rarest cases. Stocks and bonds are better investments but very poor tools to shoot. While your gun is one you could enjoy, a lot of buyers will want more features like ejectors or higher grade of finish. Worse now buyers seem to think guns should all come with screw in chokes, adjustable stock or worse camouflaged finish or black finish. If records dont exist you have no certain options.

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Originally Posted By: Stan
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Not much of a 21 fan, but likely one of the few, who if I ever did acquire one would actually prefer that configuration, except for perhaps ejectors.


You and me both, Miller ..................on all counts.

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Yup. Put me in the same category. The only 21's I've owned have been early ones. The only downside, if you buy one and then attempt to sell it, is that a dealer is likely to tell you it's worth less because of the DT's, extractors, etc. Then watch what he lists . . . and presto, he's now offering a "rare" early Model 21 for sale. Which, he tells buyers, is worth more because it's so rare. smile

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I tend to agree with KY Jon. Shoot it, enjoy it, and be a good steward. If down the line you choose to sell it, you should have no problems based on how Model 21's move and sell. Younger folks are taking an interest in some vintage guns. The problem that I see however, is they expect them to be flawless.

As a museum curator, I see a lot of valuable items that get donated to the museum. Most family members do not want to sell them. They get them appraised by an outside source, donate the artifact(s) and take the tax write-off.

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