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John Roberts #531684 12/19/18 04:24 PM
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Someone should put in a word for Evan Williams.


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Originally Posted By: Shotgunjones
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Originally Posted By: battle

jOe.... said something foolish about Buffalo Trace using Weller for Pappy, that's bullshit.


I have buddy in Kentucky that knows whiskey as good as any...him and others that don't know him say Buffalo Trace has diverted Weller 12 to Pappy Van Winkle....call it what you want.


That makes perfect sense considering the dearth of Weller lately.

The last of the stocks from Stitzel Weller were used up a number of years ago and the 'boom' especially for Pappy was unforseen.

Does this mean a drop in quality for Pappy?

No. It is the very same stuff as Weller is batched from, and they just have to let it grow up a little longer.

Remember that age statements are minimums. If a rick of wheat whiskey is stored in a rickhouse where it's underperforming (they taste the stuff on a regular basis while it's maturing) they can always let it age longer or even move it.

Pappy will be the same regardless of vintage and if they have more to sell, perhaps the price will eventually return from the stratosphere.


Weller is very popular here in Bourbon country...

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Weller 12 is good the rest is abut like old crow

John Roberts #531689 12/19/18 05:33 PM
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When we were at Bardstown Bourbon Co. we had lunch in their restaurant, Bottle and Bond which is becoming very poplar. The food is excellent and the chef is top rated. I happened to look at their selection of drinks and they carry some Historic blends that date back to the 19th century. There was one that was $1500 a pour, nice to be that rich.
They do have a Limited Edition called Collaboration. These are two bourbons aged 10 years and then aged 18 months. One is in a brandy barrel (113 proof) and the other is in a Muscat Mistelle (unfermented grape juice)barrel (94 proof). They are finished at Copper and Kings American Brandy Co. They are sold at both places and a few high end places.


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I'm not much on the flavored whiskeys or mixing whiskey with coke or anything with the exception of one cube of ice.

All the beer I've ever drank would fit in two 5 gallon buckets....I thought beer was for horses.

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Here's 5 of the finest whiskeys 4 of which most will never get to drink....with the exception of the bottle on the left at times it's hard to find. Col. E.H. Taylor Small Batch is the best $40 dollars you'll ever spend on whiskey.
About $460 retail for the four...the day you bought them they would resell for well over $1000.00 dollars.


Check out the proof and it's not hot.

John Roberts #531702 12/19/18 08:29 PM
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While bourbons and scotch can be pricey they are cheap compared to some wines. My late brother in law had a win collection that was into the hundreds of thousands of dollars. One of his favorites was only a little over a hundred dollars a bottle. They all were wasted on me as wine just does not do much for me. I cant taste that Smokey, fruity, vanilla, apricot, sweetness that a true wine lover can. Heck I like things cold which is the exact worst way to drink most wines except white wines.

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I very recently discovered Ben Milam [bourbon] whiskey which is made in Blanco, TX and is darn good. A friend from VA got a bottle as a gift and liked it so much he immediately asked me to get him a couple more bottles. They do not sell it outside of TX right now. Too small I suppose. I went directly to their small distillery on th edge of town and got the tour and was worth every penny and such great people. If youre a bourbon drinker and find yourself in the great state of Texas, it can be found at many of the usual liquor stores.

The Pappy Van Winkle cult status is all about status IMO. I just threw my empty bottle in the recycling bin. Oh well, somebody missed out on defrauding a friend or customer..

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FYI, for any Virginians that are interested, the VABC holds an annual lottery to purchase several vintages of the limited quantity of Pappy. Same buddy mentioned above won last year and got the 23 yr old for about $250. Must be a VA resident to enter...and best hurry as it ends just before Christmas I think. Hes the same guy who implored to bring him a couple of bottles of Ben Milam when I head back up for some duck gunning next month.. I will happily oblige.

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John Roberts #531709 12/19/18 09:43 PM
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"Heck I like things cold which is the exact worst way to drink most wines except white wines."

Me too. When I was going out with my wife 48 years ago, we used to drink Johnny Walker Black but it was always with water and ice. I keep some liquor, wine and beer on hand for company but seldom drink any. A friend got me into George Dickel buthere in PA near us they stopped carrying it. I still had some left and when he comes over sometimes I offer him a drink and might join him. Before my son moved to Kentucky in July of this year, when he would come over in the hot summer days I would give him a Yuengling or Sam Adams and I would take a good sip and I was done, not much of a beer drinker. The wife likes a Reiseling when we go out and I will have one with her. It is funny how your interest changes on drinking, glad it hasn't changed on guns.


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