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I have just aquired my first sxs here are some pics the drawings are of markings off the firearm. I can't find any informaition on it the only other markings are Made in Spain and the name "Esterella".
Well I aparently need instructions on how to upload pic's first.

Hello,

Welcome to the board. Here is the link to FAQ on how to post pictures. http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...0df792#Post6339

Post the pictures, some one should be able to help you.

Pete

These are the photos. The photos of the paper are drawings of the markins from off of the recever.

Welcome to the board!!!! And nice double!!!
The stamps are identified as follows,
F1 means 1960
Knight/shield with a 'X' inside: Eibar proof house mark used since July 9th 1931.
crossed barrels with a '2' is final black powder proof? One shot per barrel @ 8818 psi., for single and double barrel breechloading shotguns. This proof mark is stamped on both barrels and chamber along with the gauge in millimeters, length of chamber and weight of barrels. This one doesn't make sense!!! Maybe someone else will come in on this mark.
All the best

If it says Ignacio Ugartechea, that's the maker, and they have made all grades of guns, from "fairly clubby but it works, with canoe-paddle wood" to "Spanish Best." This seems like a low-to-middle-brow" gun like many AyAs and others imported to the States in the 1960s. I've only owned later Ugartecheas, but those were well, if not elegantly made--they worked just fine.

I can't tell from the photos--does this have a crossbolt? That would be a common feature of the competition of the period (AyA, Beretta "Silver Hawk", etc.). I like the scalloped reciever back and the engraving on the fences--reminds me of a Smith Ideal or a Grade 1 Ithaca, which I happen to like (many don't).

Is the "model name" perhaps really "Estrella" not "Esterella"? That would be "Star" in Spanish, a very common name for Basque- made guns, both models and trademarks. I can't remember what the Euzkadi word for star is, but the Basque makers gave up using it early in the last century in favor of the Spanish and English versions. Interarms once imported a "Star Guage" Spanish double in order to cash in on the fame of the Star brand of automatics (which they also imported), with the "implication" of great precision of a "star-guaged" barrel. Great marketing; I never thought the guns were so great. Does anyone know who actually manufactured them?

It doesn't say Ignacio Ugartechea I thought that the crest might have been his as his newer shotguns have a simalar one. What is a crossbolt? I am very new to sxs shotguns.
in the last pic there is a square bolt like piece that slides out from the left side of the recever when you open up the chambers. You can just see its outline in the last pic. How much would this shotgun be worth. It is quite tite and very clean. Wood is not chiped or cracked nor is it very markedup.

I only put up $325 canadian for the gun. Just trying to see if I did well or not, and to see if it is worth more.

That "square piece" is a crossbolt. Whether it works, or is even necessary, is another whole wrangle, but that's what it is. If that gun is an Ugartechea field grade boxlock--and it works--I'd say you did well for 325 of those little northern rasbucknicks! Would need more/clearer pictures to know if you did better than well. Main issue with a gun like that is how well it functions, including shooting to point of aim and patterning. Does it have ejectors (can't remember)? Do they eject reliably? Has it ever doubled? Shoot where you point it? Stuff like that.

Nice crisp trigers and no creep opens and closes very nice no hold ups almost "new" snugg. Barrels are quite clean and there is no cracks or any such impact damage to the stock. There is just normal nicks and scraches to the finish the wood is fine. The wood is nothing to write to mom about but not table leg stuff ether. I will be picking up the gun this weekend and will have more picks then.

If it works properly (and keep doing so through honest use) and if it fits and points well for you, then 325 in just about any denomination is a good price.
RG