|
S |
M |
T |
W |
T |
F |
S |
|
|
1
|
2
|
3
|
4
|
5
|
6
|
|
7
|
8
|
9
|
10
|
11
|
12
|
13
|
|
14
|
15
|
16
|
17
|
18
|
19
|
20
|
|
21
|
22
|
23
|
24
|
25
|
26
|
27
|
|
28
|
29
|
30
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
8 members (SKB, Perry M. Kissam, KDGJ, Hoot4570, KY Jon, 1 invisible),
1,185
guests, and
6
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums10
Topics38,445
Posts544,844
Members14,406
| |
Most Online1,258
Mar 29th, 2024
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,375 Likes: 105
Sidelock
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,375 Likes: 105 |
Its actually very easy for anyone with decades of International skeet experiance. Slower targets and no doubles at 3, 4 and 5. No question the international experience is a big help, John. But the game of skeet as the vast majority of Americans play it does leave them at a disadvantage until they've adjusted to the original rules.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232 |
Indeed. pm me for details.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232 |
Vintage Skeet, aka " Hal wins", by those of us that knew him at the beginning. Hal created a game where his International Skeet skills would allow Hal to both win his own shoots, but use these accolades to further his reputation. Its a crock. Dont waste youre money. After receiving the shoot results and going over them thoroughly I see clearly that Hal did not enter a single event at this shoot. Yet, you accuse him of creating a game where he could win and "further his reputation". Just how did he do that when he did not enter and compete? Don't you think you were hasty, and inaccurate, with your accusations, and owe Hal an apology? I stand by my initial diagnosis ............. you've got a bone to pick with him about something personal. SRH I was refering to the early days. We all recognized what was going on. One fellow began refering to him as Sqt Bilko. the email you got is no doubt legit, but in no way relects the overall truth.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232 |
Its actually very easy for anyone with decades of International skeet experiance. Slower targets and no doubles at 3, 4 and 5. No question the international experience is a big help, John. But the game of skeet as the vast majority of Americans play it does leave them at a disadvantage until they've adjusted to the original rules. I prefer dropped stock skeet as well. This difference is on of purpose. The SxS resurgence wasnt about celebrating the shooter. It was about the guns themselves. In the beginning, we supported everthing except the 3 second delay. Vintage skeet could have been huge. Save for one mans ego and his desire to get free guns from a certain domestic mfg. It was a shame. We were all ready to help in the beginning.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,146 Likes: 1146
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 13,146 Likes: 1146 |
Vintage Skeet, aka " Hal wins", by those of us that knew him at the beginning. Hal created a game where his International Skeet skills would allow Hal to both win his own shoots, but use these accolades to further his reputation. Its a crock. Dont waste youre money. After receiving the shoot results and going over them thoroughly I see clearly that Hal did not enter a single event at this shoot. Yet, you accuse him of creating a game where he could win and "further his reputation". Just how did he do that when he did not enter and compete? Don't you think you were hasty, and inaccurate, with your accusations, and owe Hal an apology? I stand by my initial diagnosis ............. you've got a bone to pick with him about something personal. SRH I was refering to the early days. We all recognized what was going on. One fellow began refering to him as Sqt Bilko. the email you got is no doubt legit, but in no way relects the overall truth. Since you obviously want to continue this haranguing of Mr. Hare, I will mention that this particular annual shoot is set up so that every shooter registered has a chance at winning the prizes ............ not just the class winners, and according to my information it has been this way since it's inception. It's basically the luck of the draw. Certainly not the kind of shoot someone would create to further enhance their own winnings. And, like it or not, this thread was started to discuss this particular shoot, not your past history of skeet shooting in Ohio. But, you hang onto your perceived slights and publicly voiced disparaging opinions. They will take you far ............. (not). Rest well. I'm done with this. SRH
May God bless America and those who defend her.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 232 |
Vintage Skeet, aka " Hal wins", by those of us that knew him at the beginning. Hal created a game where his International Skeet skills would allow Hal to both win his own shoots, but use these accolades to further his reputation. Its a crock. Dont waste youre money. After receiving the shoot results and going over them thoroughly I see clearly that Hal did not enter a single event at this shoot. Yet, you accuse him of creating a game where he could win and "further his reputation". Just how did he do that when he did not enter and compete? Don't you think you were hasty, and inaccurate, with your accusations, and owe Hal an apology? I stand by my initial diagnosis ............. you've got a bone to pick with him about something personal. SRH I was refering to the early days. We all recognized what was going on. One fellow began refering to him as Sqt Bilko. the email you got is no doubt legit, but in no way relects the overall truth. Since you obviously want to continue this haranguing of Mr. Hare, I will mention that this particular annual shoot is set up so that every shooter registered has a chance at winning the prizes ............ not just the class winners, and according to my information it has been this way since it's inception. It's basically the luck of the draw. Certainly not the kind of shoot someone would create to further enhance their own winnings. And, like it or not, this thread was started to discuss this particular shoot, not your past history of skeet shooting in Ohio. But, you hang onto your perceived slights and publicly voiced disparaging opinions. They will take you far ............. (not). Rest well. I'm done with this. SRH You have chosen to ignore my context. Fine. Youve been duped as well. What was the total entry? 10? 15? Post it here. I doubt you have the spine to reveal the truth
Last edited by JHJ; 05/23/19 10:36 PM.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,375 Likes: 105
Sidelock
|
|
Sidelock
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 11,375 Likes: 105 |
Its actually very easy for anyone with decades of International skeet experiance. Slower targets and no doubles at 3, 4 and 5. No question the international experience is a big help, John. But the game of skeet as the vast majority of Americans play it does leave them at a disadvantage until they've adjusted to the original rules. I prefer dropped stock skeet as well. This difference is on of purpose. The SxS resurgence wasnt about celebrating the shooter. It was about the guns themselves. In the beginning, we supported everthing except the 3 second delay. Vintage skeet could have been huge. Save for one mans ego and his desire to get free guns from a certain domestic mfg. It was a shame. We were all ready to help in the beginning. John, I remember the posts about those "early days" as well. Question: Why the resistance to the variable delay? When we used to do our annual RGS fun shoot, we had a remote that could be set for the delay. No question that it will play with your head, especially on Station 8--and you won't believe how long 3 seconds can seem. Reminded me of the time the jump master gave me the "stand in the door!" command too soon.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 44 Likes: 4
Sidelock
|
|
OP
Sidelock
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 44 Likes: 4 |
I posted my initial story to let everybody know about the fun we had shooting the "old way" and not to start another [censored] session with people that just want to pick on shooters that work to put on an event.
The guns that were given away by CZ were strictly by a random drawing. You were given one entry for each event that you shot. Winning an event would get you an NSSA medal and that was all.
We weren't paying high entry fees for the event and expecting big prizes. We were there to have fun shooting our vintage guns.
Byron
|
|
|
|
|
