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First off you can still get the small reloading manuals from Alliant and Hodgdons just by calling them. Go to their web site for the phone numbers. I find them much easier to use than their web sites. All my loads are under 8000psi and normally under 7000. With that said 2 3/4" shells are ok to use in 2 1/2" chambers. If you still want to shoot 2 1/2" shells here's a easy trimmer to make : https://youtu.be/JrULU2fslRE Then all you'll need is a roll crimper from BPI or Precision Reloading [ the PRs are better ]. Find a used Mec 600 and buy a "short kit", also from BPI or PR. If you roll crimp 2 1/2 shells all you've done is cut off a 1/4" of material from the end and a 2 1/2 shell roll crimped uses a 1/4" less material. A short kit won't be necessary in this case. The finished shell fold crimp or roll crimp is the same length. If you're going to fold crimp the 2 1/2 shell then a shorter plastic wad or fiber wads will be necessary. With Clay Busters [ and I've called and ask them about doing this ] just use a wad intended for a larger payload - say one for 1 1/4 or 1 3/8 oz and only put the 7/8 or 1oz load in it. The cushion area is shorter. The fingers may stick up over the shot but will fold over with the crimp. I don't know how well the gas seal was in my Parker hammer gun with .745 bores but I still shot occasionally fiber wads successfully. KY jon had good advice. Here is a load I saved to my email - it may help:








Paul Harm;

Here is a load that I have used. I think you will like it. It has been tested as a 1 oz. load @ 1220 FPS 9,400 PSI. It does cycle my 1100 perfectly. Using the CB0100-16 wad and 1 oz. of shot, that is a nice load also.


Remington 16 ga 2 pc plastic hull
Winchester 209 primer
20.0 grains Unique
CB0078-16
7/8 oz. lead shot.

I wouldnt hesitate to use 18.0 or 19.0 grains of Unique, if a guy wanted to reduce velocity.

There are many tested loads using 17.0 to 21.0 grains of Unique, with various wads and both 7/8 oz. and 1 oz. payloads, just not the particular wad you are using. Many loads use the WAA16 which is the basis for the CB0100-16 and the CB0078-16. There isnt one I have tried that wasnt a nice shooting load.
Maybe bump it down for less pressure. Good luck - Paul

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That trimmer looks like a great idea and an easy solution. Thanks for that and the other info.


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Check your PMs. I have the 16 gauge data you need.


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Stan, Oskar, and others have pretty much told you how to handle the short loads in the 16 ga. Thanks Stan for the advice on partial cutaway of the hull combined with overshot card. That solves the problem of the black Remington hulls that are too thick below the crimped section to cut them down a full quarter inch without requiring excessive skive. Oskar--you and I usually think alike--I too just leave the short kit in the MEC. But for those who wish to save money, or to customize the length even further--why not just make the spacer for the short kit out of 1/4 inch plywood. You could even play with thicknesses to get it all just right (thinking 2 9/16 shells) by shaving off a bit. As for recipes, they are available from the "load of the week" section on the Ballistic Products website. Enjoy more shooting, friends! Steve

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