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Help ID barrels. #547928 06/08/19 09:01 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ wannagohunting OP Sidelock
OP wannagohunting Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ	These are 16 ga 27 11/16 long 2 1/2 in chambers. Choked approx Mod and Imp/Mod No stampings other than serial number. Cut American or uncut foreign? Any clue to the maker? Thank you, Dale Last edited by wannagohunting; 06/08/19 09:03 PM. Reason: add pic AIN'T MUCH A MAN CAN'T FIX WITH SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A THIRTY OUGHT SIX

Re: Help ID barrels. wannagohunting #547938 06/08/19 10:12 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 514 Likes: 13 JAX,FL John E Sidelock
John E Sidelock Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 514 Likes: 13 JAX,FL	It has the proof stamp of Crescent Fire Arms Co. on the lug. Can you provide a picture of the forend iron looking forward from the rear. Last edited by John E; 06/08/19 10:15 PM.

Re: Help ID barrels. John E #547939 06/08/19 10:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ wannagohunting OP Sidelock
OP wannagohunting Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ	Have this photo saved John. Does that help or do I need to take another pic? AIN'T MUCH A MAN CAN'T FIX WITH SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A THIRTY OUGHT SIX

Re: Help ID barrels. wannagohunting #547947 06/09/19 07:38 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 514 Likes: 13 JAX,FL John E Sidelock
John E Sidelock Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 514 Likes: 13 JAX,FL	The area I would like to see is where the forend iron pivots on the frame. If it shows wear patterns against the cocking rods it it off a Hammerless model. If no marks, a Hammer model. I have a copy of: Niles' Guide to "Affordable" Double Barrel Shotguns in America 1875-1945, by Nicholas Niles, Jr. It shows 15~ variants of the Crescent Hammer guns. Hammerless models had multiple changes also. I will take a look as time allows. John Last edited by John E; 06/09/19 07:46 AM.

Re: Help ID barrels. wannagohunting #547950 06/09/19 08:03 AM
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 12,743 Lynchburg TN 2-piper Sidelock
2-piper Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 12,743 Lynchburg TN	Are they 2�" or 2 9/16" chambers. Most older US 16 gauge guns had 2 9/16" chambers which are very close to the European 65mm (2.559"). 2 9/16" = 2.5625". Miller/TN I Didn't Say Everything I Said, Yogi Berra

Re: Help ID barrels. wannagohunting #547951 06/09/19 08:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,423 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS Drew Hause Sidelock
Drew Hause Sidelock Joined: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,423 Likes: 314 AZ but dreaming of KS	Well done John That would be a c. 1912 hammerless The top rib extension of the hammer guns was solid. The Crescent maker's mark and '3' doesn't mean a No. 3 however John is also correct regarding the design changes. This is a c. 1902 catalog illustration with different top rib extension https://sites.google.com/a/damascusknowledge.com/www/home

Re: Help ID barrels. wannagohunting #547966 06/09/19 12:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ wannagohunting OP Sidelock
OP wannagohunting Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ	Here you go John. Thank you for the help. AIN'T MUCH A MAN CAN'T FIX WITH SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A THIRTY OUGHT SIX

Re: Help ID barrels. 2-piper #547967 06/09/19 12:55 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ wannagohunting OP Sidelock
OP wannagohunting Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ	On second look yes 2 9/16. Thank you. AIN'T MUCH A MAN CAN'T FIX WITH SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A THIRTY OUGHT SIX

Re: Help ID barrels. wannagohunting #547970 06/09/19 01:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 514 Likes: 13 JAX,FL John E Sidelock
John E Sidelock Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 514 Likes: 13 JAX,FL	Drew's observation of the top bolting notch in the extension was something I hadn't considered, but it is very conclusive. Your picture of the forend also verifies a Hammerless model as it has the cam pockets that push the cocking rods. Now, are you in search of a frame & stock, or a home for the barrel assy?

Re: Help ID barrels. John E #547972 06/09/19 02:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ wannagohunting OP Sidelock
OP wannagohunting Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 369 Likes: 3 AZ	[quote=John E]Drew's observation of the top bolting notch in the extension was something I hadn't considered, but it is very conclusive. Your picture of the forend also verifies a Hammerless model as it has the cam pockets that push the cocking rods. Now, are you in search of a frame & stock, or a home for the barrel assy? pm sent AIN'T MUCH A MAN CAN'T FIX WITH SEVEN HUNDRED DOLLARS AND A THIRTY OUGHT SIX

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