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Can anyone please help with translating the following:
"Lefaucheux-Gewehre, System Colleye mit Drahtläufen and Pirschstutzen Kaliber 20, 24, 28, 36 nach dem Systeme Colleye mit Eisenrohr and dergl. m. Stahlrohr in 1866"
I believe it is referring to Lefaucheux (pinfire) guns using the Colleye System, and that deer rifles of varying calibres are offerred... I would appreciate any help in understanding this text.
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[img] https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/v...&fit=bounds[/img] Boy Photobucket has really changed over night. Maybe a Beta version? Steve, there were other systems for stalking guns like the Werdnl also. Cheers, Raimey rse
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"Lefaucheux. Rifles, system Colleye with 'wire-barrels' and stalking-carbines in cal. 20, 24, 28, 36, system Colleye with iron barrel and also steel barrel in 1866"
Drahtlauf = 'wire barrel' = wire-wound barrels?
'steel barrel in 1866' - was '1866' a particular class of steel?
anyhow, that's what it says
rgds
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I would think that "Drahtlauf" refers to Damascus steel, which was reputedly originally made by forge welding iron and steel wires of different qualities together to form a flat strip, which could then be wrapped around a mandrel and forge welded together to form a barrel.
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Below is the text from a similar advert. What are the monetary units?
1 Stück Pirschstutzen Kaliber 20, 24, 28, 36 nachdem Sisteme Colleye mit Eisenrohr fl. 60 ----- fl. ------
1 dgl mit Stahlrohr fl. 72 --- fl. 150
1 Stück Sistem Roux m. Patronenzieher u Drahtläufen fl.60 ----fl. 150
1 "(Stück) Sistem Ghaye und Bastin die Läufe zum Schieben u. sogenannte Schlittenrohre fl. 100 ----- fl. 300
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Seems Johann Peterlongo peddled all possible platforms?
A few more lines from his 1866 advert:
1 Stück Doppelflinte mit Bandläufen einfach Hakensistem Ä sammt Lade Apparats fl. 48 ---- f.----
dgl mit einfachem Schlüsselfl fl. 48 ---- ft. 54
dgl Än dgl Sistem Lejeune zum Drehen mit Bandläufen fl. 54 --- ft. 60
dgl mit Drahtläufen fl. 60 ---- fl. 65
dgl mig Doppelschlüssel Drahtläufen fl. 65 ---- fl. 150
dgl Sistem Godin mit Drahtläufen fl. 60 - fl. 150
Cheers,
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Raimey,
the 'Florin was a monetary unit in Europe around that time. A coin, I believe.
here something from Wikipedia:
When the Gulden was decimalized in 1857, new coins were issued in denominations of ​1⁄2 (actually written ​5⁄10), 1 and 4 Kreuzer in copper, with silver coins of 5, 10 and 20 Kreuzer, ​1⁄4, 1 and 2 Florin and 1 and 2 Vereinsthaler and gold coins of 4 and 8 Florin or 10 and 20 francs. Vereinsthaler issues ceased in 1867. Vereinsthaler = ​1 1⁄2 Florins
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Many thanks Gunter.
A few more lines from his 1866 advert:
1 Stück Doppelflinte mit Bandläufen einfach Hakensistem Ä sammt Lade Apparats Florin 48 ---- Florin----
dgl mit einfachem Schlüsselfl Florin 48 ---- Florin 54
dgl Än dgl Sistem Lejeune zum Drehen mit Bandläufen Florin 54 --- Florin 60
dgl mit Drahtläufen Florin 60 ---- Florin 65
dgl mig Doppelschlüssel Drahtläufen Florin 65 ---- Florin 150
dgl Sistem Godin mit Drahtläufen Florin 60 - Florin 150
Cheers,
Raimey
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Raimey,
1 piece double gun - 'strip' barrels (as explained by Xausa above? not sure)
with single hook system & all loading equipment Florin 48
the same with simple (single?) key FL 48 - 54
the same - system Lejeune - 'turning barrel' (opening?) with 'strip' barrels FL 54 - FL 60
the same (with) double-key(?)wire barrels FL 65 - FL 150
the same - system Godin - with wire barrels FL 60 - FL 150
rgds
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The Schuler/Colleye gun I was seeking information on (in the general forum) has acid-etched damascus barrels. Perhaps this is relevant to the ‘wire’ description?
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