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Guns used at the 1898 Grand American Handicap at Live Birds
https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/45659/rec/2
Parker- 56, Smith- 42, Greener- 20, Francotte- 17, Remington- 11, Cashmore- 9, Lefever- 8, Scott- 8, Daly- 6, Winchester- 5, Colt- 4, Purdey- 2, Richards- 2, Churchill, Baker, Hollenbeck, Forehand and Stannard- 1 each.

Guns used at the 1899 Grand American Handicap at Live Birds
https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/43581
https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/43583/rec/1
Parker- 78, Smith- 56, Greener- 31, Francotte- 24, Winchester- 12, Remington- 11, Cashmore- 10, Lefever- 6, Purdey- 5, Scott- 6, Colt- 4, Daly- 3, Stannard- 3, Boss- 2, Richards- 2, Baker- 2, Forehand, Syracuse, Clabrough, Renette, Abbey, Spencer & Webley- 1 each.


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Originally Posted By: B. Graham
Thanks All. What prompted the question was a gun I have from a barter with a good friend:

Skimin & Wood BLNE
12ga
30” f/f steel
Raised rib
8 lbs 3 oz
Hidden third fastener
Clipped fences
Nitro proof to 1 1/4 oz
2 3/4”
LOP 14 1/4”
DAC 1 1/2”
DAH 2 1/8”
POW grip


Interesting gun. I wonder on its year of manufacture.

Skimin & wood were well known as makers of pigeon guns, not so much duck guns.

I have a Skimin & Wood pigeon gun, or at least it was advertised as a pigeon gun, I bought it as a pigeon gun & I call it a pigeon gun.
I shoot the orange circular breed of pigeon, not so hard to shoot but damn crunchy to eat.

Skimin & Wood BLE # 1620*.
12 g
30". 3/4 UK. or light full 0.030 constriction both barrels.
Slightly raised & file cut rib.
7 lb 14 oz.
Hidden, Purdey type third fastener.
Clipped fences. 2.240" across outside of fences.
Nitro proof to 1 1/2 oz.
3" chambers 0.2040" or 5.13 mm thick chamber walls.
LOP 14 1/2" to front trigger.
DAC 1 5/8"
DAH 2 1/2"
POW grip.
Auto safety. Dicky bird type.
Anson release forend latch.
Fine English rose & scroll engraving.

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I would like to be able to correctly pronunciate this name, but need direction. Does Skimin sound like "Sky-min" or is it a "short" first "I", as in the word "skimming"?

SRH


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Good question Stan. So much of what people read they never hear in conversation. Then you mix in a foreign language like brit english and there's just no telling.

I'm still working on pronouncing my J. Blanch & Son hammer gun. Blank or blantch? The gaelic would require the former if the Peter May novels are to be trusted...Geo

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According to David Trevallion, it's Blanch - like what you do to vegetables to give the color. In American English...Blanche... like the name. ("a" like in "ahhhhh").


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“Good question, Stan.”
Fixed it for you. (your welcome:))

Argo beet me to it.

One of the advantages of shooting a bumper jack. Don’t have to worry how to pronounce it.


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Thanks Lonesome. It is good to know there are those among us knowledgeable in the use and placement of the comma. But you seem to have put an unnecessary colon and an extra parentheses in your second sentence and misspelled beat in the third....Geo

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Drew, do you know what type of gun the Stannard was. I can't figure out how to enlarge the print of the articles you mentioned. I have a Stannard single barrel trap gun and it may be the only one I have seen.

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If I had a date with a girl named Blanche and she pronounced it Blahhhnche, I'd ghost her...Geo

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Bet she always "depended on the kindness of strangers"-- When I shot the "pigeon ring events" in June 2010 at Sagola- I shot an early 12 bore Smith Grade 2E--originally barred with Damascus-early style ejectors- but it had been sent back to Fulton about 1929-fitted with a set of 32" F&F Nitro Steel barrels with the Gifford Simmons designed Raised ventilated rib- and a semi-beavertail design forearm. Has the earlier style 2 way safety, double triggers and a Hawkins pad-- weighs 8 and 1/4 lbs. 1&1/2 " pitch- 14&3/8" LOP from front trigger, 1&3/8" DAC, and 1& 7/8" DAH-- I often use it for Geese (with RST Non-Tox loads- it has 3" chambers, but NOT a LONGRANGE series Smith) and it "shoots where I look". Would live to try it on some boxed birds, but MI does NOT have any such venues- Nor, sadly, a dove season. RWTF


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